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    Default nwe rotation in pro+

    in previous versions I could set a rotation point for bitmaps

    this no longer seems to work in pro+

    am I doing sopmething wrong?
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    Default Re: nwe rotation in pro+

    Not sure what you mean by this, Steve. There is a new behavior that somehow places the center or rotation based on something that I am not able to wrap my mind around and that you can undo by clicking the selected object again.

    Are you taking about the Fill Tool rotation?

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    Default Re: nwe rotation in pro+

    yes that new behaviour that you mention [not fill]: it works fine for vector objects, but I cannot get it to work for a bitmap - a bitmap just spins on its own axis regardless of where the rotation point is
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    Default Re: nwe rotation in pro+

    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    yes that new behaviour that you mention [not fill]: it works fine for vector objects, but I cannot get it to work for a bitmap - a bitmap just spins on its own axis regardless of where the rotation point is
    You may be trying with the Photo Tool.

    It is done with the Select Tool:

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    Default Re: nwe rotation in pro+

    I am in the selector tool

    I create a quickshape I click on the selector tool infor bar button - set origin position - and I get a rotation point that I can move so that the quickshape rotates around this

    the position of the rotation point persists, which is how I understood it would work, and is good.... a make more quicjkshapes, they rotate around the rotation point as set

    but this operation does not work for me with a bitmap - it will not rotate around the point so set, it just rotates around it's own centre; and I cannot get a rotation point to apperar on a bitmap when resetting with the infobar button
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    Default Re: nwe rotation in pro+

    ok cracked it, I think

    the bitmap will only so rotate if you use the info bar to do the rotation - it will not rotate around the rotation centre point using it's handle, unlike the quickshapes, and unlike the previous versions

    from my point of view that is a loss of functionality, my bitmaps are mostly drawing elements, not photos

    I can get round it up to a point by grouping with a shape and releasing when done - but that is tiresome and clumsy
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    Default Re: nwe rotation in pro+

    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    ok cracked it, I think
    the bitmap will only so rotate if you use the info bar to do the rotation - it will not rotate around the rotation centre point using it's handle, unlike the quickshapes, and unlike the previous versions
    from my point of view that is a loss of functionality, my bitmaps are mostly drawing elements, not photos
    I can get round it up to a point by grouping with a shape and releasing when done - but that is tiresome and clumsy
    handrawn, the rotation "handles" are actually there; move the pointer around the corners and the pointer chages. It is subtle and Xara has a knack of hiding thing, badly.

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    Default Re: nwe rotation in pro+

    ok thanks i will look into that
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    Default Re: nwe rotation in pro+

    so...

    square is bitmap - polygon is vector

    select vector and click on show rotation centre - rotation centre appears

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    do the same for bitmap - no rotation centre

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    show rotation point on vector and move it
    vector will rotate about this point - as will any new vectors created

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    but select the bitmap and the rotation centre disappears and the bitmap will only rotate around it’s own centre

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    if I select both bitmap and vector- or if I group bitmap with vector - rotation centre will show and it will work for both - it will not work for the bitmap alone
    so I cannot drag-rotate a stand-alone bitmap around an offset control cenre, which I could in previous versions

    I can rotate a stand alone bitmap around the rotation cenre using the infobar, the rotation centre does not show but it is repected - however I need to be able to drag-rotate stand-alone bitmaps
    so this is not the overall improvement I was hoping for, it will greatly impede the workflow

    ... or am I still doing something wrong?

    ... are there more than one set of rotation handles on the bitmap ?

    Xara Designer Pro+ 20.5.0.60603 SL x64 Nov 10 2020

    thanks for your help
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    Default Re: nwe rotation in pro+

    ok forget all that

    it's the show selection bounds handles that is the issue - clue in your screen shot

    a big relief to me... thanks again for your help
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