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  1. #11
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    Default Re: Creating portraits with CSS and HTML

    The joy is in Gary's post and Diana Smith's incredible skill and doggedness.
    Absolutely, Paul. As we know there are many Xara artists who could do a much better job using the vector and bitmap tools but the point is really what these people were able to achieve in such a unique way. Just because they could.

    Acorn - This is not unlike how you improve the reach of Xara by adding additional scripting.

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    Default Re: Creating portraits with CSS and HTML

    Quote Originally Posted by Acorn View Post
    My reflection is TG is no longer a true forum where people can engage in debate
    ok lets have a debate...

    Every one is right and no one wrong so let's celebrate that
    I trust you were being ironic... everyone is entitled to their opinion, that is never going to guarantee it is right [or wrong]

    There are some of us who think they are not artistic but would like to have a go but don't know any of the techniques: pointillism, watercolour, 3D-modelling, etc.
    I reckon no one starts with a technique, they start with a realisation; whether it is the 'natural' way you arrange flowers, or the patterns you make when you doodle, or the way you find yourself singing your own accompliment to the music you listen to, it is spontaneous at inception and then you realise you really like doing it and would like to 'do something with it' - then you look round for a way of doing just that

    For every true artist, there are a cohort of technicians who promote, assist and develop the art, not playing second fiddle, but participating
    by implication this means that my mother-in-law the one who arranged the flowers so beautifully with no technical assisstance outside of mother nature was not a 'true artist' - you are on very dodgy ground when you start to use the term 'true artist' [as I know form my own experience], so you had better give a proper definition of it if you intend to carry on using it

    The medium for art has changed over time. currently, it is the Internet. Tomorrow, it may be augmented reality
    there are lots of mediums for art

    the internet is a great enabler, bringing art to those who maybe would not have seen it otherwise.. although it has to be said a picture of Tracey Emin's unmade bed on a screen is only a description [visually], and not the real thing... until you see the real thing you do not see the art; same goes for a painting such as mona lisa, the last supper, Dali's the temptation of saint anthony, and even high quality prints do not give you a sense of the brushwork, the effect of light, you need to see the real thing [and hope the gallery curators know what they are doing which is not a given]

    computing opens lots of new possibilities sure, but Dylan went electric and the acoustic guitar still thrives; I do not need electricity to make art, though it will be somewhat different...


    So I get marked down if I look at something, appreciate it and work out how I might do it and share my creative idea?
    the way I read you post was 'I know a better way of doing this' - if that was wrong, I apologise


    Computing is a case in point. I am an analyser, developer, designer, implementer and integrator by profession. Most are just users. Neither would exist without the other

    you could argue that a lot of artists create art without caring a hoot whether anyone is interested or not

    for that matter what use was binary before computing.. Carroll made use of it in Alice, but that was an in-joke from a mathematician - is something art if no one goes 'WOW'... is there a sound when the tree falls if no one sees....
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    Default Re: Creating portraits with CSS and HTML

    Truly, thank you all.

    I was not trying to better or discredit her efforts, I was offering up a method others might try with an XDA as otherwise they might not realise its power or ever have a go.
    It was a stab at Xara for trying to limit our capacity to do things: rotate text by a degree and we get a bitmap; use a NavBar and you have bitmaps upon bitmaps.
    I was and am after the purity Diana has achieved without going elemental.

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    Default Re: Creating portraits with CSS and HTML

    Pauland, your remark that
    Quote Originally Posted by pauland View Post
    It's a sad reflection on TG at how so many threads focus on minutiae rather than celebrate the skill and beauty of the result.
    Seems contrary to

    Quote Originally Posted by pauland View Post
    I am not the TG police.
    But I appreciate your call to celebrate any great achievement.


    In that vein, I would like to celebrate Acorn’s efforts and achievements -- by having a grand vision for the Xara design apps and by focusing on the minutiae in order to achieve that -- to reinvigorate the forums, to expand the usability of the apps, and to call Xara management’s into action.

    He’s championing many of the concerns and requests that have been expressed for years by countless TG members, many of whom have since left, often hurt and dispirited that their love for Xara’s apps was not acknowledged by Xara management. With the input of a few other distinguished members (not including me), Acorn is giving a boost to the whole Xara ecosystem.

    I don’t know why he is doing this and where he gets his seemingly boundless energy from, but I follow his actions with wonder and respect. I feel this is the time and place for me to say it out loud.

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    Default Re: Creating portraits with CSS and HTML

    since when has an expressed opinion been the word of law ?

    sure acorn is a star as is egg as are the three garys and others too...

    xara as a company chooses it's own path, as do we all

    I can accept, if be disappointed, if new features I would like do not appear when xara is not headed that way - what is difficult is to see the state that some releases are in that really makes you wonder what testing if any xara actually do... which is indeed where acorn comes into his own
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