Origin bug?

[Egg Bramhill]

Recently with the latest 17 update there seems to be some strange effects creaping in.

• One was someone trying to resize an object re %'ages
• The second was strange text alignment.

I'll try to refind the posts.

Here's what I think is causing them:

[Acorn]

Egg, the change has been documented and is not a Bug:

Now you can drag on the center [sic] point handle to move it anywhere on the page. For example if you move it to the center [sic] of the page, then when you rotate the rectangle or any other objects, they will all rotate around the center [sic] of the page. Unlike in earlier versions of Designer, the visibility and position of the center [sic] handle is now maintained until you press the button again to turn visibility off. You can change selection, switch to and from other tools and even switch to different pages and the rotation handle keeps its position. To revert to normal, where objects rotate around their own centers [sic], just turn visibility off again

You now just single-click to toggle the CoR on and off.When you do so it centres in the selection object.
You can now pick any other objects and rotate then around this common point.

It takes a bit of practice but it is actually an improvement.

All Scaling uses the visible origin as the focus and always has done.
So if you want to Scale in situ, click the CoR off (& on) and Scale Up or Down - everything seems to happen from the middle of the object.

Acorn

[handrawn]

the centre of rotation is a definate improvement ....

[Egg Bramhill]

Thanks for the clarification Acorn. I did think after posting that this may be not a bug but intentional. But for the life of me I can't see any advantages of this change, just further confusion. It was very simple previously to set the centre of rotation to have multiple objects around a common centre. Could someone provide an example of where this change is advantagous?

[Acorn]

Thanks for the clarification Acorn. I did think after posting that this may be not a bug but intentional. But for the life of me I can't see any advantages of this change, just further confusion. It was very simple previously to set the centre of rotation to have multiple objects around a common centre. Could someone provide an example of where this change is advantagous?

You can still select many objects and click Off and On to get the common centre.

The benefit lies in the CoR remains static across pages so it is possible to rotate items uniformly with a website.

I was always frustrated with constructions with changing CoRs where you mis-click and things go adrift.
I can use this new approach to nudge items in a common collection into place by rotating rather than nudging up and across.

Acorn

[rsrsrs]

now i had a page where the origin jumps on another page, ... funky.

[rsrsrs]

i have to double-click so much i'm starting to get tendinitis (sehnenscheidenentzündung).
Is there any way to turn this off, just it was before?

Xara Designer Pro X 17.1.0.60742 DL x64 Dec 9 2020

please !!!

[Acorn]

i have to double-click so much i'm starting to get tendinitis (sehnenscheidenentzündung).
Is there any way to turn this off, just it was before?

Xara Designer Pro X 17.1.0.60742 DL x64 Dec 9 2020

please !!!

But if you uncheck the Show origin centre, any selected object has the origin automatically centred.
You can use the nine points of the Set origin position to move the origin within the object's boundaries without needing to see it.

The double click action does what it has always done.

Acorn

[rsrsrs]

But if you uncheck the Show origin centre, any selected object has the origin automatically centred.
You can use the nine points of the Set origin position to move the origin within the object's boundaries without needing to see it.

The double click action does what it has always done.

Acorn

i am so stupid.

:-0

thx & sorry

[Acorn]

i am so stupid.

:-0

thx & sorry

You are not. Xara is in failing to properly explain how UI changes really work.

Acorn