The November 2020 update to Xara Designer Pro X 17 available.

[behzad]

I am entertained to see friends whom objected the move to + when it was introduced, now backing up the plan.

[handrawn]

you know maybe it's all just a cover and they really do work for xara....

[behzad]

Just installing the updates now

[Acorn]

I am entertained to see friends whom objected the move to + when it was introduced, now backing up the plan.

I objected and fought on the price (now halved)[https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...t-with-a-Bang].
I objected on the failure of Xara to realise its original goal of Designer ProX on-line (it fails to address layers)[https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...83#post601683].
I objected and fought to the poor delivery of features for all notified Updates (no one else did or rarely does).
I objected to the fluff and flannel (still rife)[https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...34#post612334].
I objected to the lack of detail in Releases (Knowledgebase and elsewhere)[https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...mp-Pro-Status]
I objected to the unstated differences (XPro+ is less functional than XDPX)[https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...-Xara-Hosting]

I have spent an inordinate amount of time on assessing the monetary worth in chosing the XPro+/XCloud+ combo: https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...527#post623527.
I have run out of objections.

Acorn

[Acorn]

you know maybe it's all just a cover and they really do work for xara....

This friend of behzad, for one, is definitely not a Xara employee or sub-contractor.
I did get some cash once through an Affiliate Link and I have partaken on testing and gained a licence but I renounced this subsequently. I am not on a retainer.

I would be happy to engage with Xara on a commercial basis but I have always been vendor-agnostic in my professional work as an employee and as a freelance consultant.

My transition to XPro+ has been more the dropping of the obnoxious Magix Update Service than anything else. I think my objections to the Update service are fairly well-documented.

Acorn

[onlye]

Am I wrong to be underwhelmed by the update? It is of course a .1 update not a full number release update. But the full number release update 17 was just a retail numbering gimmick. So a .1 to what was not really an upgrade really amounts to a bit of nothing.

But maybe the new features are more significant than I realize. Tell me I'm missing something.

I use to excitedly anticipate the annual upgrade. There were always several reasons to upgrade to the new version. I don't think I have been excited by a new Xara feature in a long time.

The web design software I have moved to does a new release about once every 16 months. I started on version 14 and just upgraded to version 16. Each version included around 200 new and improved features that take about 6 pages to describe. The newest version had me on page one of the new features, so the next 5 pages were all gravy. Support is via a forum and answers from the developer usually take less than 24 hours. Compare that support to Magix that sends you and email to confirm that you really want support after you submit a ticket that usually goes unresolved. All this from a company of one developer. Xara could take some lessons from this smaller but superior software developer.

[handrawn]

@acorn

you are worth your weight in HTML that's for sure... where would this forum be without you and half doz others.....

I always wondered whether you did beta... actually I wondered if xara still did beta at all a few time in last few years

You are probably being unfair to the obnoxious by linking them with the M.U.S

[behzad]

@acorn your a fountain of information and knowledge. Without your contribution I would have been lost in the Xara forest. You and few others like Egg and Gary etc.. Lets all do a group hug

[Acorn]

Lets all do a group hug

A socially distant one thanks

Acorn

[rsrsrs]

I realy like the new version, and the new Selection UI.

very good!


but i have difficults how the "Improved Rotation Center Handling" works,
somtetimes the center jumpes around i have no idea where and why?

and the fontsize in the menu are smaller, any ideas how to make them larger?

regards reinhard