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    Default Re: Xara/MAGIX vs AFFINITY

    Quote Originally Posted by pauland View Post
    I recently joined the Affinity Facebook group.

    Wow is it busy. It very much has an enthusiastic vibe that is like talkgraphics used to be - about drawing stuff not websites. In an afternoon I've seen more artwork than in a year on Talkgraphics. Talkgraphics is something of a misnomer these days.

    ..and this afternoon someone was complaining that Affinity couldn't do what DrawPlus does.. ..so familiar when people move software.
    this does not surprise me... talk graphics has the feel of can you help me - oh thanks [if you are lucky] - 'bye - never mind arcane definitions of 'graphic', or 'art', TG is hardly anything more than a help desk these days most of the time
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    Default Re: Xara/MAGIX vs AFFINITY

    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    TG is hardly anything more than a help desk these days most of the time
    Which lies squarely with Xara the company as it no longer engages having farmed out its responsibility to Magix.

    Acorn
    Acorn - installed Xara software: Cloud+/Pro+ and most others back through time (to CC's Artworks). Contact for technical remediation/consultancy for your web designs.
    When we provide assistance, your responses are valuable as they benefit the community. TG Nuggets you might like. Report faults: Xara Cloud+/Pro+/Magix Legacy; Xara KB & Chat

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    Default Re: Xara/MAGIX vs AFFINITY

    yes.. but so where are we with pro+ then which has nothing to do with magix..... do they, xara, engage elsewhere ?
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    Default Re: Xara/MAGIX vs AFFINITY

    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    yes.. but so where are we with pro+ then which has nothing to do with magix..... do they, xara, engage elsewhere ?
    Xara has support pages (https://help-cloud-plus.xara.com), now populated a bit more. For example, a question on "help manual" offers http://support-dl.xara.com/pdf/Versi...nerProPlus.pdf. This is somewhat stale with its last update as at 16 April 2020.

    Now on the same page, there is the Intercomm Chat so you could ask "Will there be a PDF Help Manual soon?" and you individually may get a response in two working hours.
    This is great compared with Magix but why must we have 3,174 such enquiries when TalkGraphics exists? Xara does not understand communication channel mechanisms.

    Long-winded but if all we get it is a question-response paradigm then debate around the worth of new features or asks will never appear, especially as Xara rarely engages in TG.

    Acorn
    Acorn - installed Xara software: Cloud+/Pro+ and most others back through time (to CC's Artworks). Contact for technical remediation/consultancy for your web designs.
    When we provide assistance, your responses are valuable as they benefit the community. TG Nuggets you might like. Report faults: Xara Cloud+/Pro+/Magix Legacy; Xara KB & Chat

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    Default Re: Xara/MAGIX vs AFFINITY

    sorry, the point I was really interested in was - is xara, on TG, interested in showcasing.. or are they just milking the free technical support

    and I stress on TG

    when I said do they, xara, engage elsewhere ? I was being ironic
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    Default Re: Xara/MAGIX vs AFFINITY

    "The notification about your update service expired is unfortunately something that is not possible to get rid of, there is no way how to stop it from popping up."

    Goodness me! (he said, politely) this just has to be pure eyewash...somebody, surely, must have the knowledge, power, willingness and ability to alter what can and cannot appear in its own program. Do they believe that their customers all came down in the last shower of rain?

    Each time I fire up Xara Designer I am pleased to be working in a pleasant and familiar environment, but like Rik, the pop-ups do tend to get on my nerves.
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    Default Re: Xara/MAGIX vs AFFINITY

    Maybe we should we be grateful the programs keep working and don't revert to a demo mode like Pro+ where copy, save and export etc are disabled if you don’t handover your money!

    What's that you say? - that'll be the next thing!

    Verb: nag

    1. Bother persistently with trivial complaints
    2. Worry persistently
    3. Remind or urge constantly
    4. An annoying marketing practice used by Xara/Magix
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    Default Re: Xara/MAGIX vs AFFINITY

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    Talking Re: Xara/MAGIX vs AFFINITY

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonopen View Post
    Maybe we should we be grateful the programs keep working and don't revert to a demo mode like Pro+ where copy, save and export etc are disabled if you don’t handover your money!
    At least a punter subscribing to Pro+ realised it will stop when the subs does. Within the Magix universe (as it is beyond my reach), 90% of the on-line content disappears and a re-install reverts back to a buggy purchase version, all with the T&Cs well-hidden.

    Verb: nag


    1. Bother persistently with trivial complaints
    2. Worry persistently
    3. Remind or urge constantly
    4. An annoying marketing practice used by Xara/Magix
    5. What Acorn persists with to Xara


    Acorn
    Acorn - installed Xara software: Cloud+/Pro+ and most others back through time (to CC's Artworks). Contact for technical remediation/consultancy for your web designs.
    When we provide assistance, your responses are valuable as they benefit the community. TG Nuggets you might like. Report faults: Xara Cloud+/Pro+/Magix Legacy; Xara KB & Chat

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    Default Re: Xara/MAGIX vs AFFINITY

    hmmmm, getting upset now
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