Designer Pro + vs Designer Pro

[RKissane]

I read Robs post about Designer Pro +. did I read it right that Xara is going to be making the most updates/frequently to this + version and not Designer Pro? I thought that is why we paid to have this yearly service when we bought this Pro product that we would be getting regular updates through out the year.

Are these updates to the Plus version also going to come to the regular Pro version? My renewal date is fast approaching and I am really questioning what is going on.

Ray

[Acorn]

It is fairly simple. Pro+ is totally in Xara's gift so updates can be as frequent and actually have to match the changes in Xara Cloud+.

The other Xara Desktop applications (XDA) (XDPX, XWD(P) & XP&GD) are packaged by Magix.
Magix add in all their hooks and take around a fortnight to do so.
XDAs will be forced into the Update service profile of 3-5 releases in a year with Magix breathing heavily to ensure there is a major version release annually, regardless of merit.

I have made a personal choice to jump to the Xara Subscription model and lose Magix.
There is a cost but one I am comfortable with: https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...527#post623527.

In summary, most of the changes in Pro+ will eventually feed down into the XDAs.

Acorn

[MB365]

It is fairly simple. Pro+ is totally in Xara's gift so updates can be as frequent and actually have to match the changes in Xara Cloud+.

The other Xara Desktop applications (XDA) (XDPX, XWD(P) & XP&GD) are packaged by Magix.
Magix add in all their hooks and take around a fortnight to do so.
XDAs will be forced into the Update service profile of 3-5 releases in a year with Magix breathing heavily to ensure there is a major version release annually, regardless of merit.

I have made a personal choice to jump to the Xara Subscription model and lose Magix.
There is a cost but one I am comfortable with: https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...527#post623527.

In summary, most of the changes in Pro+ will eventually feed down into the XDAs.

Acorn

Adding to this:

A new update to Pro+ was already released: https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...e-20-0-0-59369
Another update is in beta test: https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...a-Designer-Pro

We will continue to monitor and understand user reaction/feedback as we move forward.

Best,
Matt
CEO of Xara

[RKissane]

Matt,

How long to think it will be before these updates from Pro + makes it's way into the normal Pro version?

Ray

[MB365]

Matt,

How long to think it will be before these updates from Pro + makes it's way into the normal Pro version?

Ray

Hi Ray,

Product release schedules are typically defined at a minimum of 12 months in advance with a strategic partner like Magix. To answer your question directly, not all updates will make it to all products and any changes to the established schedule is still being evaluated. Our focus right now is good, consistent updates for Xara Cloud and Designer Pro+ (and the beta test for 4k support). We've established a consistent product rhythm for Xara Cloud and, based on the positive response to the new Cloud+ offering, our goal is to achieve that with Designer Pro+. Maybe there is a new normal?

All the best,
Matt
CEO of Xara

[handrawn]

as in: the subscription only pro+ is now the normal designer pro ?

'strategic partner' [love the way you put that ] magix is tactically sidelined....

[Acorn]

Hi Ray,

Product release schedules are typically defined at a minimum of 12 months in advance with a strategic partner like Magix. To answer your question directly, not all updates will make it to all products and any changes to the established schedule is still being evaluated. Our focus right now is good, consistent updates for Xara Cloud and Designer Pro+ (and the beta test for 4k support). We've established a consistent product rhythm for Xara Cloud and, based on the positive response to the new Cloud+ offering, our goal is to achieve that with Designer Pro+. Maybe there is a new normal?

All the best,
Matt
CEO of Xara

Matt, none of the above answered Ray's (and Gary's and others') ask about why would people bother with a second-rate service and stay with Pro or even consider a jump to Pro+ at greater cost if there is not some clarity about what is in it for them? What you actually have just implied is you'll develop Pro+. That might be new but it's not normal.

Acorn