Acorn, after looking at your wimsy.xar it has created a question for me. Is it possible to create your own photo frame within xara or must you always use the ones in the content catalog? I guess what created my question is when I looked at whimsy.xar at the star frame I thought about giving it 6 points instead of 4 and tried. I see no way how. Then went to the help for xara and looked up photo grids, all it talks about is the ones in content catalog. I like what you are showing in whimsy.xar, just created a question in my mind!