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  1. #1
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    Bug Smart Ellipse to Circle Challenge

    Dear Xara...

    Ensure Snap to Objects is active.
    Press Alt-I-S-E or Shift+Ctrl+Alt+E to create a Smart Ellipse.
    Drag the ellipse to the centre point of the page.

    Without switching to the Selector Tool (Alt+S), make the ellipse a 317px diameter Circle.
    How easy was that?

    I used Shift+Right Drag to keep the ellipse in the middle of the page but for the first horizontal axis, I had to change Zoom to 10000% to get down to 0.1px accuracy.
    Luckily, after changing Zoom back to the Drawing, I could hit 317px spot-on for the vertical axis.

    Now, Clone and increase the size of the Circle so that its vertical diameter aligns with the left edge of the original and its bottom does not change its vertical height or the right is horizontal position.
    Basically I am asking for you to double the diameter.
    How easy was that?

    I rotated the circle 180 degrees and then used the Resize control.
    You cannot judge the doubling accurately as nothing Snaps: no guide, no shape, no grid.
    If you work at it the Resize pop-up will indicate 200%, let the drag go free and restart and it is reset to 100%.

    No matter, you got there.

    Well, not really.
    Switch to the Selector Tool.
    The original "circle", for me, is 317.9px (W) by 316.1px. Over 0.25% inaccurate.
    The "doubled circle" is 635.8px (W) by 632.2px (H). At least the Resize indicator proves to be accurate. Sadly, it is also off-centre.

    Go Old School.
    Ellipse Tool (L).
    Drag out an Ellipse, size and align.
    Clone and Scale 200% or drag and Snap at the edge of the original or even input Wx2 with Hx2.
    Check centres, dimensions, orientation, perimeter and area. All show up a mostly circular. Accurate to 0.015%. Probably better if I had used milliPoints.

    The final nail is when you Ungroup a Smart Ellipse, you end up with a Shape not an Ellipse.

    For aficionados, a Rounded Rectangle is the better shape to use for an Ellipse for web purposes as its HTML representation is a SPAN (310 Bytes) and not an image (8 kiloBytes):
    <span class="xr_ar" style="left:1096px;top:677px;width:200px;height:13 7px;background: -webkit-linear-gradient(180deg, #FFFC00 -0%, #FF0000 100%);background: -o-linear-gradient(180deg, #FFFC00 -0%, #FF0000 100%);background: linear-gradient(270deg, #FFFC00 -0%, #FF0000 100%); border-radius: 100px/68px;"></span>

    The Good The Bad and the Eggly.xar

    Acorn
    Acorn - My currently active Xara software: XDPX (current, v15, v12 & 11 (64-bit)), unserviced XWD Premium 15 & 12, XPGD10, X3D7; lots of licences back through time (to CC's Artworks). If your Post identifies a Xara software fault, please raise it directly with Magix --> support2.magix.com.

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    Default Re: Smart Ellipse to Circle Challenge

    Acorn I have to ask, how do you come up with some of these things? You find bugs that would take me centuries to find! I watch you answer peoples questions including mine so often it is incredible. Is your real name Einstein?

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    Default Re: Smart Ellipse to Circle Challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Gypsyjoe View Post
    Acorn I have to ask, how do you come up with some of these things? You find bugs that would take me centuries to find! I watch you answer peoples questions including mine so often it is incredible. Is your real name Einstein?
    GJ, I use the application as a tool for different purposes, hit a snag and then dig in.

    Without TG, I wouldn't look out for a quarter of the problems I touch on.
    I want the Xara Desktop application to be the best tool out there.

    I am afraid I do the same with MS Word and MS Excel and most of the Office Automation.
    A lot of my career has been application integration on diverse enterprise platforms so I have had to engage with strategy all the way down to the binary.

    A lot has been web work and UI literacy around mouse operations versus key clicks; just understanding the dichotomy around how to train diverse staff has boosted my cognitive complexity. I try to understand others' viewpoints - die Weltanschauungen.

    Einstein spoke better German than me.

    Acorn
    Acorn - My currently active Xara software: XDPX (current, v15, v12 & 11 (64-bit)), unserviced XWD Premium 15 & 12, XPGD10, X3D7; lots of licences back through time (to CC's Artworks). If your Post identifies a Xara software fault, please raise it directly with Magix --> support2.magix.com.

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    Default Re: Smart Ellipse to Circle Challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Gypsyjoe View Post
    Is your real name Einstein?
    I have a theory Acorn is an eighth son, lives in Anch-Morpork and attended UU at some point in his life. It would explain so much.

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    Default Re: Smart Ellipse to Circle Challenge

    Well whether your name is Einstein or not I am a very simple person and you explain simply which I appreciate, but sometimes I still have a hard time following you. I wish I had half the brains you have. I do thank you for being here for all of us here on TG. You have seen my website very simple but without your help it would be less. Just keep up the great work. Thanks!

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    Default Re: Smart Ellipse to Circle Challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris M View Post
    I have a theory Acorn is an eighth son, lives in Anch-Morpork and attended UU at some point in his life. It would explain so much.
    just so long as he does not start going 'OOK!'
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    Default Re: Smart Ellipse to Circle Challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    just so long as he does not start going 'OOK!'
    You genuinely made me spray coffee on my screen. It's been years since I read Terry's books, but I instantly had the image of the Orangutan swinging through the library.

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    Default Re: Smart Ellipse to Circle Challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris M View Post
    I have a theory Acorn is an eighth son, lives in Anch-Morpork and attended UU at some point in his life. It would explain so much.
    Sorry Chris, it is Ankh-Morpork - Terry might get cross - https://xclacksoverhead.org/.

    I actually did attend the Observable University (OU) and occasionally commuted to the UU via the Library (no swinging, only shoogling).

    To be any good you have to be the tenth son (in octal) for Discworld.

    Acorn
    Acorn - My currently active Xara software: XDPX (current, v15, v12 & 11 (64-bit)), unserviced XWD Premium 15 & 12, XPGD10, X3D7; lots of licences back through time (to CC's Artworks). If your Post identifies a Xara software fault, please raise it directly with Magix --> support2.magix.com.

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    Default Re: Smart Ellipse to Circle Challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris M View Post
    You genuinely made me spray coffee on my screen. It's been years since I read Terry's books, but I instantly had the image of the Orangutan swinging through the library.
    Again, sorry, but it is the Librarian who happens to be an orang-utan. All other allusions make him go Librarian-poo (apeshit).

    Acorn
    Acorn - My currently active Xara software: XDPX (current, v15, v12 & 11 (64-bit)), unserviced XWD Premium 15 & 12, XPGD10, X3D7; lots of licences back through time (to CC's Artworks). If your Post identifies a Xara software fault, please raise it directly with Magix --> support2.magix.com.

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    Default Re: Smart Ellipse to Circle Challenge

    You all appear to have better memories than I have - although I do remember now I've been prompted. I must dig out my Discworld books and read them again.
    Keith
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    There are 10 types of people in this world .... Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

 

 

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