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    Default White space above a vertical variant

    I'm having trouble with a website variant and white space above where a page is supposed to begin.

    My upper left hand corner of the page begins with position X = 0px and y = 0px. My page is w=415 px and h=2567. I've even checked the 'show page shadow' to find out if I have the position correctly.

    But -- I end up with white space above where the page is supposed to begin. Remember this is on a variant of a website - so when you view the opening page squish your browser so you can see the problem.

    I've never quite understood how Xara defines the above variables. But when you start a page at X and Y position at 0 - that should be the top left of the page. Correct?

    www.larrykrause.ca Only look at the opening page, because the rest are all out of whack.

    -Bill
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    Default Re: White space above a vertical variant

    Drag the Drag 0, 0 Point cross hairs up to where you want the page to start.
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    Default Re: White space above a vertical variant

    Thanks Gary - but I do think I'm doing it. Check the png. This has always driven me crazy on a few sites that I've built. Just can't figure it out.
    You'll see I dragged from the cross hairs to zero markers. Still the dreaded white space above on this particular variant.

    Under > page options > Grid and ruler > X= -16px and Y=1900. If I change both and X and Y to 0px and apply nothing seems to change.

    This is not happening on the full variant www.larrykrause.ca
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    Default Re: White space above a vertical variant

    Bill, show us your version of this:

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    Acorn

    P.S. The design file would be much the easier. PM it if you wish.
    Acorn - installed Xara software: Cloud+/Pro+ and most others back through time (to CC's Artworks). Contact for technical remediation/consultancy for your web designs.
    When we provide assistance, your responses are valuable as they benefit the community. TG Nuggets you might like. Report faults: Xara Cloud+/Pro+/Magix Legacy; Xara KB & Chat

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    Default Re: White space above a vertical variant

    Does this help Bill?
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    Default Re: White space above a vertical variant

    Hi Acorn .. here are my page options > grid ruler. I bit different of course I'm using WD.

    I seem to recall one of your tutorials on Grids and Page margins. I'm going to search for that as well.

    Thanks for any ideas.
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    Default Re: White space above a vertical variant

    Thanks @gwpriester - it does a bit. I'm going to add some color to my background so I can actually 'see' where the page starts and ends.
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    Default Re: White space above a vertical variant

    Gary and Acorn. By adding a light color to my page background I'm able to see where the page actually begins. And of course helps a great deal.

    I still haven't figured out how to do this with a white background. I must refers to Acorn's post on guides and pages.

    Thanks to both of you.

    -Bill
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    Default Re: White space above a vertical variant

    You can add a page color until you have extended the top of the page then once it is where you want it, reset the page color.

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    Default Re: White space above a vertical variant

    A quick check is Window > View Quality > Outline.
    In XWD(P), it is Alt-W-Q-O and back to Very High quality is Alt-W-Q-V.
    If you set up a New View, you can just move from one to the other and see your page in outline.
    I find adding Guides is much cleaner in outline so I keep that view with Guides showing as well.

    Acorn
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