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  1. #11
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    Default Re: extend a shape with pen, adding with or without original shape?

    As it is so problematic, use the Freehand and Brush tool and start close to but not touching the line and draw a closed (filled) shape.
    Place behind the original and select both and Add Shapes.

    To remove from the original, all od the above but Subtract Shapes as the last step.

    The explanation I have in my head for the ~-~ use is it is all down to the winding direction of the added path.
    I find it difficult to explain though, hence the alternative.

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    Default Re: extend a shape with pen, adding with or without original shape?

    id agree about winding rule and its opaque nature - there is really no documentation about this from xara
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    Default Re: extend a shape with pen, adding with or without original shape?

    Here's a LINK to a thread that probably relates to this issue answered by PhilM but I can't say it will clarify much for me or most users.
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    Default Re: extend a shape with pen, adding with or without original shape?

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    Default Re: extend a shape with pen, adding with or without original shape?

    thanks for the link egg

    yes well, manipulating the winding can be a very useful design tool, eg when doing complicated freehand shapes with lines that overlap, and I think it is a shame in a way xara do not cater for it - philM's comment about 99.99% of the time is another example of where the target user for xara is though

    hakoo - indeed
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    Default Re: extend a shape with pen, adding with or without original shape?

    Hi all,

    i just fight with this "feature".
    any news here?

    reinhard
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  7. #17
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    Default Re: extend a shape with pen, adding with or without original shape?

    Having looked at this again I'm with egg on this one

    this is the way I see it:

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    the xar file contains the shape if you want to test it yourself

    pen shape adjustment.xar

    whether this is to do with winding rule or not, there has to be a rule because xara cannot guess and both adding or subtracting have their uses
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