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    Default Support for webp file format.

    Many online news sites are now posting images in .webp file format that allows very large photos to load quickly. According to Wikipedia:

    WebP is a modern image format that provides superior lossless and lossy compression for images on the web. Using WebP, webmasters and web developers can create smaller, richer images that make the web faster. WebP lossless images are 26% smaller in size compared to PNGs.
    This photo https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019...y=90&auto=webp which is about 1MB and has incredible detail is an example of one of these images.

    I think this would be a good option to to have for website work. Especially with the current large screen sizes.
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    Default Re: Support for webp file format.

    Yes, but it would need to built into Xara such that it can serve up either a webp image if the browser supports it or a normal jpg or png if the browser doesn't support the webp format. i.e. rather similar to how the @2x.jpg is served up dependant on the viewing device. If it's not built in it'll be more hassle telling any particular browser which image to serve up.
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    Default Re: Support for webp file format.

    It needs a similar approach to my SVG suggestion...
    ...https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...DA-Web-Exports.

    @Gary, as the image is greyscale, it is difficult to compare with other images; a full 24-bit colour version might be massive.

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    Default Re: Support for webp file format.

    If you look at the main photos on the Guardian website, or most major news sites, you will see a lot of these images and most in color. This was from an article in the New York Times and because it was comparing Bernie Sanders to Eugene Debbs, a socialist in the early 1900s they chose black and white.
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    Default Re: Support for webp file format.

    I agree this format is a necessary export format as it's getting increasingly standardized.

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    Default Re: Support for webp file format.

    https://www.keycdn.com/support/webp-support

    Just use jpgs and/or pngs when transparency is needed.

    Well, other than svgs + fallback.

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    Default Re: Support for webp file format.

    xara cannot even open these files - affinity can, my image viewers can, I can get round it, but it is a nuisance if I want one in XDP 15.1 or XP&G 16

    EDIT: I think some of your link is outdated Mike - don't currently have issue with these files in FFox, however it appears edge still does
    Last edited by handrawn; 21 February 2020 at 04:39 AM.
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    Default Re: Support for webp file format.

    Interesting. Some of these files import OK but most don't. Support for this file format seems essential for website work.
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    Default Re: Support for webp file format.

    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    ...EDIT: I think some of your link is outdated Mike - don't currently have issue with these files in FFox, however it appears edge still does
    The original url was from 2018, so yes.

    But one set of statistics still holds true: load times of webP versus jpeg is about 11% faster and page "weight difference" of 29%. Load times of webP versus png is 3% faster and page weight difference of 25%. Now, those stats are using "pure" statistics on "pure" html pages and do not account for fallback images one needs, which depending on how the agent handles fallback images and/or how the html fallback is written, the alternates are still cached locally...at least the last time I inspected the cache of the pages I inspected when I was investigating such things. Which means the page load stats are wrong.

    So I guess, to me, I couldn't care less about the desire to have an Xara application support the webP format, in or out.

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    Default Re: Support for webp file format.

    If Xara ever gets around to implementing anything, I would prefer SVG over WEBP in priority but as the coding is very similar, why not both?

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