not a fan of cirticular arguments, I currently get more than my fair share in the Brexit
@Paul - we use to go to Castle Howard as kids; last time I was there last summer the grounds were free, or at the very least, freely accessible - there are public rights of way that always made it awkward from a charging point of view anyway - you can stop feeling guilty [if you ever did ]
Malton is bigger; there is a bypass; new housing estates and service road construction made it a place to aviod if possible when travelling across the Pickering Vale the last 12 months or so, but that means going the long way round - pretty though.. when we were kids a lot of the back roads still had streams running over the road rather than having bridges... or conduits
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