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    Bug v16dot1 - Smart Line Groupings

    Dear Xara...

    I attach a file where the two Labeled lines are grouped with a shape: v16dot1 - Smart Line Groupings.xar.
    This group can be manipulated with the selection bounds handles with no issue.

    When I change the group to a soft-group, I lose the side controls and can only scale.

    Up to now grouping effectively locks objects together so the action of the group and the constraint of the soft-group feels incorrect.



    After skewing, I find an Undo creates an access violation.
    After selection the Quit button, the application locks and I have to resort to using the Task Manager to kill the non-responsive processes.

    Acorn
    Acorn - My currently active Xara software: occasionally serviced XDPX, purposely unserviced XDPX12 & XDPX11 (32/64-bit), unserviced XWD Premium 15 & 12, XPGD10, X3D7 and lots of 'permanently-owned' licences back through time (to CC's Artworks)

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    Default Re: v16dot1 - Smart Line Groupings

    Not sure if I'm following you here Acorn but I can't replicate that ???
    Egg

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    Bug Re: v16dot1 - Smart Line Groupings

    Egg, I hope my second try is clearer.

    The Grouped green box is smart and can be stretched or squashed. All fine.
    I expected the same behaviour with the Soft-grouped red box but all I can do is scale.

    The orange A4 ratio template ought to behave like the red box and fails in being purely A-scalable.

    Amended file: v16dot1 - Smart Line Groupings.xar

    I have engaged Show select bound handles (black, traditional Xara controls).

    Acorn
    Acorn - My currently active Xara software: occasionally serviced XDPX, purposely unserviced XDPX12 & XDPX11 (32/64-bit), unserviced XWD Premium 15 & 12, XPGD10, X3D7 and lots of 'permanently-owned' licences back through time (to CC's Artworks)

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    Default Re: v16dot1 - Smart Line Groupings

    I have seen some problems with that after undoing which I'll get logged, but if I'm not mistaken, your asking to only show the corner handles on these objects?... I mean it just seems relatively like a lot of work for something you could just not use...

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    Default Re: v16dot1 - Smart Line Groupings

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob-Xar View Post
    I have seen some problems with that after undoing which I'll get logged, but if I'm not mistaken, your asking to only show the corner handles on these objects?... I mean it just seems relatively like a lot of work for something you could just not use...
    Rob, all I am trying to do is get over a realisation that a number of the recent changes greatly impact the User Interface and well-worn workflows. If you are always trying to second guess what is smart or not and which mode you are in then the changes are problematic.

    Currently, when I soft-group a box and two lines, I retain all the control points.
    Change a line to a Smart Labeled Line and controls vanish.

    This doesn't happen if I just group in either of the above cases.

    I simply included the A4 Ratio Template as a counter-example, where the central controls ought not to be there as it destroys the purpose of the template: to maintain a ratio.

    Acorn
    Acorn - My currently active Xara software: occasionally serviced XDPX, purposely unserviced XDPX12 & XDPX11 (32/64-bit), unserviced XWD Premium 15 & 12, XPGD10, X3D7 and lots of 'permanently-owned' licences back through time (to CC's Artworks)

 

 

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