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    Default Re: I wish I had 1% of this mans talent!

    talent is something you have or have not right ? aka aptitude

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    Default Re: I wish I had 1% of this mans talent!

    talent is something you have or have not right
    No, I don't think so HD, it's something you have in degrees, it's not something that's present or absent.
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    Default Re: I wish I had 1% of this mans talent!

    Quote Originally Posted by Egg Bramhill View Post
    No it's about talent, nothing to do with capitalisation or elitism, having it or not, etc.
    Absolutely.

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    Default Re: I wish I had 1% of this mans talent!

    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    talent is something you have or have not right ? aka aptitude
    Absolutely not. You can learn to do a lot of things. You can absolutely learn to draw and sketch.

    You may never be the next Mondrian or Picasso but that doesn't matter.

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    Default Re: I wish I had 1% of this mans talent!

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    Default Re: I wish I had 1% of this mans talent!

    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    Norman had a wonderful technique for drawing cars
    He did have a great technique, but it evolved over time. There was a big difference between the early stuff he posted and the later things.

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    Default Re: I wish I had 1% of this mans talent!

    everything evolves over time
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    Default Re: I wish I had 1% of this mans talent!

    Quote Originally Posted by mwenz View Post
    I didn't look at handrawn's list as requirements. But it is a darn fine list...which I wouldn't have ever put together in a thousand years. It's beauty, as a list, is in its brevity yet says so much.
    you are most kind mike

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    Default Re: I wish I had 1% of this mans talent!

    Quote Originally Posted by pauland View Post
    Absolutely not. You can learn to do a lot of things. You can absolutely learn to draw and sketch.

    You may never be the next Mondrian or Picasso but that doesn't matter.
    yes but that is acquiring and improving on the ability to do something, during which you may or may not discover you have talent
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    Default Re: I wish I had 1% of this mans talent!

    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    yes but that is acquiring and improving on the ability to do something, during which you may or may not discover you have talent
    EVERYBODY has an ability to draw/paint/sculpt to one degree or another. Everybody has that capability to a more or lesser degree and what you describe as talent is not some binary situation.

    Discovering you have no talent is akin to giving up and people reading this misguided notion that people can't make art without god-given talent may just give up before they start.

    I disagree with your notion that you have to have inbuilt talent to make art. Not everyone is going to become Ricasso or Rembrandt but that still not a reason not to enjoy art and for that art to be able to give pleasure to others.

    There are very many amateur artists making work that I find more pleasing to the eye than some lauded famous works.

    There is huge value in making art that the individual can enjoy making and others can enjoy viewing or experiencing without having the mental leaps or mental issues exhibited by Munch or Van Goch.

    We can agree to disagree and you can continue to tell people they can't enjoy art and have success with art if they have no talent and I will encourage ANYONE to take up art and enjoy it knowing that many people who believed they are unable to draw/paint/sculpt can continue to have success with it on a personal and sometimes commercial and critical level.

 

 

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