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    Default Re: I wish I had 1% of this mans talent!

    I didn't look at handrawn's list as requirements. But it is a darn fine list...which I wouldn't have ever put together in a thousand years. It's beauty, as a list, is in its brevity yet says so much.

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    Default Re: I wish I had 1% of this mans talent!

    Quote Originally Posted by mwenz View Post
    list...which I wouldn't have ever put together in a thousand years.
    It's a list that is unhelpful in encouraging anyone to be artistic, so I would never have drawn that list up in a millenium!

    It's not a list that I've ever heard of in any art programme that I have seen, or referred to by any artist I've had a conversation with.

    Art is a broad church and what constitutes a "great artist" is very much in the eye of the beholder and the mind of a critic.

    You can tell that I think having any list as some definition of what constitutes a skillset for a fine artist is ridiculous and unhelpful in encouraging people to take up art.

    Anyway, let's not detract from Egg's great link and remember that Egg only wanted 1% of this guys talent, so I have given him the route to achieve that and it's up to him or anyone else to work on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by through the looking glass
    "When I use a word" Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, " it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more, nor less"
    paul, anything can be called art with a small a, I have no problem with that, nor do I wish to discourage anyone from trying

    but at the risk of offending the snowflake brigade [not that I am accusing you of this] anyone who is discouraged by what I said is not going to get very far in Art with a capital A

    it was not meant as a list of requirements, it was more an attempt to describe an attitude of mind that you must have if you are going to have originality

    you can see that, in the link egg posted, the artist has a very particular eye and imagination and originality drawn from the tradition of use of pen ink and white space

    I didn't know you were so knowledgeable about this subject handrawn.
    I went to art school Paul- it has been mentioned here before - but I gave up windsor and newton for corel painter; and as I never tire of saying an Artist is what I am, not a designer

    there is only one piece of my Art on this forum and it is here [originally done for another place under another user name]: https://www.talkgraphics.com/album.p...hmentid=121790


    it was done in corel painter, it took five minutes to paint, but after a lot of practice with the software - don't call it great, but I like to think it has some originality... it has meaning too, but here of course it is a little out of that context, I only put it in the gallery originally to make a point in another thread
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    Here's some of mine. Done on an iPad.

    I specialise in wobbly lines..
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    Anybody can do these and get something out of it.

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    Default Re: I wish I had 1% of this mans talent!

    were I wearing my 'free advice' hat I would say - try to make them look special so that anyone who sees the art would say - that's a Pauland - without being told

    that's what the guy in the OP has achieved; that's one of the things that promotes art to Art

    but no reason to do that as you say; no problem
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    Art or art? Individual styles???

    I prefer to look at the work of Norman Spencer (Parahandy), a much loved TalkGraphics member who at 80 + taught himself digital art without any such boundaries.

    Unfortunately it appears that much of Normans work has been removed from TG.

    Poor link to his work. He used to have a whole dedicated forum to himself that seems to have been deleted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    were I wearing my 'free advice' hat I would say - try to make them look special so that anyone who sees the art would say - that's a Pauland - without being told

    that's what the guy in the OP has achieved; that's one of the things that promotes art to Art

    but no reason to do that as you say; no problem
    I'm not in competition with anyone and I don't have a need to have people say "that's a pauland".

    Eventually they'll change and probably a style will evolve, but I won't deliberately do it, it will just happen. If it doesn't I don't care.

    I don't think people have individual styles because they want to be different, it's what they evolve over time, so I won't be forcing a style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egg Bramhill View Post
    Art or art? Individual styles???

    I prefer to look at the work of Norman Spencer
    LOL, that puts us in our place!


    a much loved TalkGraphics member who at 80 taught himself digital art without any such boundaries.

    Unfortunately it appears that much of Normans work has been removed from TG.

    Poor link to his work. He used to have a whole dedicated forum to himself that seems to have been deleted.
    Yes, I loved what Norman did and it's tragic his posts haven't been preserved.

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    Art or art? Individual styles???
    ok - but this thread is about an Artist with a capital A - forgive me for being 'elitist' but you got it or you haven't - wasn't that the point of the thread

    Norman had a wonderful technique for drawing cars; yes it is a pity
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    Default Re: I wish I had 1% of this mans talent!

    ok - but this thread is about an Artist with a capital A
    No it's about talent, nothing to do with capitalisation or elitism, having it or not, etc.
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