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    @Gary, the complexity of this puzzle is the number of overlaps each ring suffers - all have four overlaps from the other rings. Your solution only manages two.

    I split my rings by cloning the uppermost ring and slicing it into two parts so there is only a single crossing.

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    The shadowing and edging is extremely well handled; my design fluffed the shadow until I realised I could group the final design before adding the shadow. I've always said you're a bit shady.
    Could you describe how each ring has exactly a 2 cm banding?

    @Marco, your solution seems to be perfectly symmetrical and a match for mine. Well done.
    Can you answer the same question?

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    Default Re: Puzzle Ring

    If you make your ring or ellipse using a line first then converting the line to shape, the width of the circle/ellipse is uniform throughout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwpriester View Post
    If you make your ring or ellipse using a line first then converting the line to shape, the width of the circle/ellipse is uniform throughout.
    Thank you Gary, that's what I was hoping to hear. Convert Line to Shape is one of those essential tools you don't know you have until you fall over it.

    Sadly, I don't think it exists in Web Designer so does anyone have an alternative approach?

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    @Marco, your solution seems to be perfectly symmetrical and a match for mine. Well done.
    Can you answer the same question?

    Acorn[/QUOTE]

    I've done exactly what you both said, first I've created the ellipses and the circle with a line thickness of 2cm and then converted them to shape. After that, centered all (after rotating the two ellipses 45° and -45° respectively) and CTRL-5 to intersect. Done that I've united again the pieces so to build your design an finished adding the line width required.
    Marco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco D View Post
    @Marco, your solution seems to be perfectly symmetrical and a match for mine. Well done.
    Can you answer the same question?
    Acorn
    I've done exactly what you both said, first I've created the ellipses and the circle with a line thickness of 2cm and then converted them to shape. After that, centered all (after rotating the two ellipses 45° and -45° respectively) and CTRL-5 to intersect. Done that I've united again the pieces so to build your design an finished adding the line width required.[/QUOTE]Thank you Marco, this is exactly what I did.

    I have found that if you do not have the rotation of the shapes are zero or so other corner angle, you get extra jaggies.
    In this case, I got round it by cloning the cutout circle rotating it 180° (as it is rotationally symmetrical) and Adding Shapes.

    Full marks.

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    Default Re: Puzzle Ring

    Another thing you may or may not have observed. The patches for the overlays, can be rotated and duplicated around the center of the circles. Not sure about the ellipse though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwpriester View Post
    Another thing you may or may not have observed. The patches for the overlays, can be rotated and duplicated around the center of the circles. Not sure about the ellipse though.
    Thanks Gary, I tried that too. I always look for symmetry to simplify my design and understanding.

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    The opposites are identical for colours; the adjacents have Red and Blue flipped.

    The hardest part was retaining the centre of rotation.

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    Hi Acorn,
    tried to use subtract shapes (Circle 16cm - 12cm, Ellipses 22x9 - 18x5) instead of convert line to shape. Looks quite different for the ellipses.
    Used clones and opacity masks for the overlapping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by siran View Post
    Hi Acorn,
    tried to use subtract shapes (Circle 16cm - 12cm, Ellipses 22x9 - 18x5) instead of convert line to shape. Looks quite different for the ellipses.
    Used clones and opacity masks for the overlapping.
    siran, think of the 2cm ring width made form 2cm ribbon placed flat.

    It will stretch, tear or ruck; it can never be flat.

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    The top ring used a 2cm Line Width. Neither my inner nor outer edges are true ellipses, but it looks right.
    The bottom ring is your nested ellipses. You can see that you would have to play around a bit to make the inner approach what a 2cm Line Width offers.

    I chose to sacrifice rigour for art in my design.

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