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  1. #1
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    Default Re: Is latest Web Designer 'properly' responsive?

    After a month of experience with Xara's new Fit-to-width" option, I have mixed feelings.

    Have you (anybody who uses the fit-to-width option) gotten any feedback from visitors?

    It is a little disconcerting to go to a website and suddenly without warning the page changes size.

    If I were a first-time-visitor, I think I'd exit immediately. Too many stories about people causing harm to your computer.

    If I were a regular visitor, I think it might get rather annoying. It is getting more annoying to me every time I log on to one of our websites and the page suddenly j-j-jumps to a different size.

    So... I am switching them back to just the 3 variants, and I am adding the Add This buttons back to the bottom of the pages (now that the Add This buttons know where the bottom of the page is).

    I guess I'll just slowly keep converting our sites over to Wordpress. I don't expect it to last forever - nothing does. In the last 18 years I've gone from Trellix to Cute Site Builder (Trellix by another name) to very brief encounters with a few I'd rather not remember to Xara and now to Wordpress.

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    Default Re: Is latest Web Designer 'properly' responsive?

    After a month of experience with Xara's new Fit-to-width" option, I have mixed feelings. Have you (anybody who uses the fit-to-width option) gotten any feedback from visitors?
    I have a number of sites running v16.2 'scale-to-fit-width'. I have found it works well with two variants, 480px & 1080px, with the maximum set to 1080px (same page width as the desktop variant). My website variants do not use (share with variants); the mobile variants are hand-crafted to work in that size; they are naturally slightly different to provide a better mobile experience. The desktop page width of 1080px scales well on most tablets provided you use reasonable font size on the desktop version.

    User feedback has been positive: Examples here: https://barnesbowling.org | https://omnodisplay.uk | https://yewhitehartgs.uk

    It would be worth trying out the option with just two variants.

    Gary

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    Default Re: Is latest Web Designer 'properly' responsive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Initiostar View Post
    I have a number of sites running v16.2 'scale-to-fit-width'. I have found it works well with two variants, 480px & 1080px, with the maximum set to 1080px (same page width as the desktop variant). My website variants do not use (share with variants); the mobile variants are hand-crafted to work in that size; they are naturally slightly different to provide a better mobile experience. The desktop page width of 1080px scales well on most tablets provided you use reasonable font size on the desktop version.

    User feedback has been positive: Examples here: https://barnesbowling.org | https://omnodisplay.uk | https://yewhitehartgs.uk

    It would be worth trying out the option with just two variants.

    Gary
    Thanks Gary, I agree with your findings.

    Xara is suggesting that truly adaptive might be on the cards. Until then and if at all sooner, the Variant and Main ought to allow a mix of Conventional and Supersite.

    Acorn
    Acorn - installed Xara software: Cloud+/Pro+ and most others back through time (to CC's Artworks). Contact for technical remediation/consultancy for your web designs.
    When we provide assistance, your responses are valuable as they benefit the community. TG Nuggets you might like. Report faults: Xara Cloud+/Pro+/Magix Legacy; Xara KB & Chat

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    Default Re: Is latest Web Designer 'properly' responsive?

    Hi Acorn,

    the Variant and Main ought to allow a mix of Conventional and Supersite
    I remember we had a conversation here about a short-term workaround where one could publish a Xara doc as a conventional website, and another separate Xara doc as a supersite, both to the same directory, with bidirectional links between the two.

    I posted this example in another thread http://myform.initiostar.co.uk. The original challenge was to overcome a pesky widget that did not want to operate across variants, but I have used the principal work-around for a Newsflash supersite working with a conventional website.

    The example here has a mobile variant for the conventional website (with scale-to-fit-width), but the supersite (in this case) is one size, but also uses scale-to-fit-width.

    Gary

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    Default Re: Is latest Web Designer 'properly' responsive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Initiostar View Post
    Hi Acorn,
    I remember we had a conversation here about a short-term workaround where one could publish a Xara doc as a conventional website, and another separate Xara doc as a supersite, both to the same directory, with bidirectional links between the two.
    I posted this example in another thread http://myform.initiostar.co.uk. The original challenge was to overcome a pesky widget that did not want to operate across variants, but I have used the principal work-around for a Newsflash supersite working with a conventional website.
    The example here has a mobile variant for the conventional website (with scale-to-fit-width), but the supersite (in this case) is one size, but also uses scale-to-fit-width.
    Gary
    All duly noted but Xara needs to be more proactive and make it work for all. I did all of this well before Xara ever dreamed of Variants and had Scale to Fit included.

    Acorn
    Acorn - installed Xara software: Cloud+/Pro+ and most others back through time (to CC's Artworks). Contact for technical remediation/consultancy for your web designs.
    When we provide assistance, your responses are valuable as they benefit the community. TG Nuggets you might like. Report faults: Xara Cloud+/Pro+/Magix Legacy; Xara KB & Chat

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    Default Re: Is latest Web Designer 'properly' responsive?

    I have been using these setting and works well. I do not use fit to screen etc... desktop 1130 px. Mobile 700 px.

 

 

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