Xara Export Error With A Multi Page Document (CMYK)

[miken72]

Hi there!
Anyone else here experiencing that joy when trying to export the multipage document as pdf CMYK? 125 pages (with layers) in my case. It is so much fun!
But seriously, it is not. Everything seems to work rather smoothly when choosing RGB colormode. CMYK gives always that damn error and warning from Xara and you have to either restart or force restart Xara. Far too familiar with that one. And yes, artboards are ok. Not even any big of their size. Equally poker card sized. Because I am creating a card game. Well, trying to more or less. Regarding if there is any objects outside the artboards? The answer is obvious.
Not even any shadow objects without converting those first to bitmap. No bevels, no special effects left, simple and simply bitmaps with text lines. And in general it is that CMYK that is for some reason giving hard times. ALWAYS. Regardless of what resolution I will choose (dpi). I am sure that I am not being the only one here?

I am using Xara Designer X15, as admin. Plenty of enough memory to handle the export processing. It does not help to divide the major document into smaller divisions either. 64bit, with latest everything except Xara´s newest version. Obviously...

Thank you for your time.

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PS. Seriously Xara team. What gives? You guys should take a note now -Focus. You are trying to build something for everyone and the result is, at least now very clear. You guys are lost in the woods . Is it because you are feeling the pressure of the competitors (that stigma always being the underdog). Or is your staff being maxed out thanks to pressure from the investors and related sh*t that follows. Maybe everything combined... Perhaps your hands are tied because of previous acquisition. Dunno. But you need to do something fast.

Good news is. You still can make the difference. To start with, I would suggest to pick up one product and compare it to the competitors one. My pick would be the Xara Designer Pro. Then concentrate on building it and make it shine in every way. And allow it finally to become opensource. Yes, lesson learnt that you did not allow community to tamper your rendering engine and you decided to end the project. I guess that that was the main reason? But if you think about what that step would had made possible. Obviously with some clever marketing strategy along with the ever growing community. Now there is Serif breathing on your neck and possibly leaving you to beat the dust. They made it to Mac NATIVE as well.

To be brutally honest, you also seem to lack of proper marketing and professionalism when doing business. Your public product marketing is all over the places. Most likely that is due to your distributor´s business practice? But the version packages. Very basic product packaging. One of the cornerstones of how to start effective product selling. Makes no sense at all for any newbies. Even we longtimers are confused. It´s like trying to make sense of different version of Windows. Just... It is easy to push your head once again into a bush and make it all disappear -the uncomfortable comfort zone, if you will. But this all is starting to look like a Nokia´s swang song.

Sure enough it is easy to get upset about my letter but truth to be told. And finally, I really like your product. The rendering engine is still pretty solid but it is not enough anymore. Also your support service is working fine -Thank you guys for your assistance! But where the money comes from to keep the entire wagon rolling, one missing wheel will make a big difference.

[mwenz]

I'm not experiencing this issue.

But then, I hardly make more than a short brochure inside of XDP that goes to PDF. I use it for assets I place in layout applications for the most part, the aforementioned small brochures, postcards, ads and the like. But I also make large-format booth banners and the like as well (like 200 or more inches in the long dimension).

So I took a page of labels (letter-sized) that are complicated, lots of transparency effects, tiled hi-res bitmaps, a rectangle over the page to alter the transparency blend mode, grungy-type fonts, etc., and replicated it 100 times. Then altered half the pages in some way. I then exported to a CMYK PDF. Took about 2-3 minutes. Worked fine.

I also took another user's tarrot card XAR file that I helped with a few years ago and exported it to a multi-page CMYK pdf and it too exported fine in v.16.

While your file may be more complicated than either of the above, it may not be also. With these types of issues all I can suggest is to file a support ticket and supply the file for tech support to take a look. Else supply the file here either publicly or privately to a member for a second pair of eyes and see if there may be an issue or not.

Mike

[behzad]

I have done a few large size posters and banners with quite a lot of vector on it and always had it crash. It may be my laptop and memory which I assume is so because I have yet to get a new one with more memory. But for now I try this website and it did a good job. The problem is that it can accept up to 14M at one time. You can find other ones on the net too I am sure. Or just divide up your work and then the printers can assemble them together.
https://www.pdf2cmyk.com/

[miken72]

I'm not experiencing this issue.

But then, I hardly make more than a short brochure inside of XDP that goes to PDF. I use it for assets I place in layout applications for the most part, the aforementioned small brochures, postcards, ads and the like. But I also make large-format booth banners and the like as well (like 200 or more inches in the long dimension).

So I took a page of labels (letter-sized) that are complicated, lots of transparency effects, tiled hi-res bitmaps, a rectangle over the page to alter the transparency blend mode, grungy-type fonts, etc., and replicated it 100 times. Then altered half the pages in some way. I then exported to a CMYK PDF. Took about 2-3 minutes. Worked fine.

I also took another user's tarrot card XAR file that I helped with a few years ago and exported it to a multi-page CMYK pdf and it too exported fine in v.16.

While your file may be more complicated than either of the above, it may not be also. With these types of issues all I can suggest is to file a support ticket and supply the file for tech support to take a look. Else supply the file here either publicly or privately to a member for a second pair of eyes and see if there may be an issue or not.

Mike

Thanks a lot! How ever it should be fine. Everything is now bitmapped and still the same problem. And the size of each card is the same, so basically poker sized (2.5 x 3.5"). Should be quite easy to handle. Something else is now wrong. If you want I can confidently send you that file to check out. That´ll be highly appreciated I am using v.15.

[miken72]

I have done a few large size posters and banners with quite a lot of vector on it and always had it crash. It may be my laptop and memory which I assume is so because I have yet to get a new one with more memory. But for now I try this website and it did a good job. The problem is that it can accept up to 14M at one time. You can find other ones on the net too I am sure. Or just divide up your work and then the printers can assemble them together.
https://www.pdf2cmyk.com/

Cheers! I will check out that one. But I have tried to export as 10 cards per one go. Still that same error message and Xara crashes. Next I will try without any layers. I assume that it should not make any difference but if it is a bug... Also, I don´t have any vector elements but text and yes, it is google font that I have used. But still as RGB everything works like a charm. It´s that darn CMYK that will gives hard times. But thanks for the link and help. Appreciated

[mwenz]

Thanks a lot! How ever it should be fine. Everything is now bitmapped and still the same problem. And the size of each card is the same, so basically poker sized (2.5 x 3.5"). Should be quite easy to handle. Something else is now wrong. If you want I can confidently send you that file to check out. That´ll be highly appreciated I am using v.15.

I would be happy to take a look. And if you have a vector version still, ZIP them up together.

As you cannot PM me (kinda a dumb restriction of maybe 20 posts), you can either supply an email address or I can. But either way, we would need to remove that address quickly once exchanged so the spammers don't get to it. So I'll check in more frequently to see if you do. And if not but are online here, I will.

Take care, Mike

[miken72]

I would be happy to take a look. And if you have a vector version still, ZIP them up together.

As you cannot PM me (kinda a dumb restriction of maybe 20 posts), you can either supply an email address or I can. But either way, we would need to remove that address quickly once exchanged so the spammers don't get to it. So I'll check in more frequently to see if you do. And if not but are online here, I will.

Take care, Mike

Thanks Mike!
Here is my email: (deleted)
Regards,
Mikko

[mwenz]

Thanks Mike!
Here is my email: (deleted)
Regards,
Mikko

Got it, Mikko. Sending an email right away. Feel free to delete the address!

Mike

[behzad]

Export as Rgb and that online thing will convert to cmyk. Pick us web coated.

[mwenz]

Geez. What a dummy!

Thanks, Gary.