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    Anyone care to vote on your favourite Web-page editor? I mostly do hand-coding in Ultra-Edit, but certain tasks are best done elsewhere. I just wanted to know what people are using out there...


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    Anyone care to vote on your favourite Web-page editor? I mostly do hand-coding in Ultra-Edit, but certain tasks are best done elsewhere. I just wanted to know what people are using out there...


    hth,
    Deep (just a guy)

    <pre><font face="courier" size="2">,-----------------------------.

    | Pradeep Kumar Nair, B.Math |

    | Graphic/Multimedia Designer |

    | ICQ#: 39102360 |

    | Medius Communications, Inc. |

    | http://www.medius.com |

    `-----------------------------'</font></pre>
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    hth,
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    Hi Deep ...

    Good question! I'll be interested to see the end result. I voted but had to add that HomeSite, to me, is the best! Only for PCs I'm afraid, though I have it on good authority that BBEdit is the Mac equivalent. It should be noted that Dreamweaver uses Homesite for the HTML backend. I use Dreamweaver as well, but for the nitty gritty and all code changes, Homesite is my choice. Couldn't do without its extended Search & Replace feature!!

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    Yeah, I'm pretty interested in seeing the vote results, myself! I haven't used HomeSite at all, really - didn't realize DW used it as a backend??? How do they pull that off on a Mac? Anyway, BBEdit is pretty good, too - it's my preferred editor on a Mac, actually (I would have put it in the poll, but I didn't have room... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif[/img] ). Does HomeSite allow for Regular Expressions in their S&R function? I use the RegExp feature of UltraEdit's S&R all the time. Love it!!! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    Well, looks like it will be an interesting poll...


    hth,
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    <pre><font face="courier" size="2">,-----------------------------.

    | Pradeep Kumar Nair, B.Math |

    | Graphic/Multimedia Designer |

    | ICQ#: 39102360 |

    | Medius Communications, Inc. |

    | http://www.medius.com |

    `-----------------------------'</font></pre>
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    hth,
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    Hmm. Perhaps using the word "backend" was misleading. Dreamweaver (for PC) comes packaged with Homesite - when you wish to actually edit the HTML it will switch to the editor of choice. I'm not sure what editor is packaged with DW for Mac.

    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Does HomeSite allow for Regular Expressions in their S&R function? I use the RegExp feature of UltraEdit's S&R all the time. Love it!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Funny you should mention that as I was just talking to my partner about this today. Yes! Homesite allows the use of Regular Expressions and it's a pretty robust S&R. My problem is that I don't know how to do RegExp and need to sit down and learn - for one site, in particular, and I know, I'd save hours of time.

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    If you're looking for a somewhat decent reference, here's one for Perl RegExps:

    Perl Regular Expressions

    UltraEdit also has some docs on it in their help files. Here's an example:

    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
    Regular Expressions (Unix Syntax):

    Symbol Function
    \ Marks the next character as a special character. "n" matches the character "n". "\n" matches a linefeed or newline character.
    ^ Matches/anchors the beginning of line.
    $ Matches/anchors the end of line.
    * Matches the preceding character zero or more times.
    + Matches the preceding character one or more times.
    . Matches any single character except a newline character.
    (expression) Brackets or tags an expression to use in the replace command.A regular expression may have up to 9 tagged expressions, numbered according to their order in the regular expression.The corresponding replacement expression is \x, for x in the range 1-9. Example: If (h.*o) (f.*s) matches "hello folks", \2 \1 would replace it with "folks hello".
    [xyz] A character set. Matches any characters between brackets.
    [^xyz] A negative character set. Matches any characters NOT between brackets.
    \d Matches a digit character. Equivalent to [0-9].
    \D Matches a nondigit character. Equivalent to [^0-9].
    \f Matches a form-feed character.
    \n Matches a linefeed character.
    \r Matches a carriage return character.
    \s Matches any white space including space, tab, form-feed, etc but not newline.
    \S Matches any nonwhite space character but not newline.
    \t Matches a tab character.
    \v Matches a vertical tab character.
    \w Matches any word character including underscore.
    \W Matches any nonword character.
    Note - ^ refers to the character '^' NOT Control Key + value.

    Examples:
    m.n matches "man", "men", "min" but not "moon".

    Te+st matches "test", "teest", "teeeest" etc. BUT NOT "tst".

    Te*st matches "test", "teest", "teeeest" etc. AND "tst".

    [aeiou] matches every lowercase vowel
    [,.?] matches a literal ",", "." or "?".
    [0-9, a-z] matches any digit, or lowercase letter
    [^0-9] matches any character except a digit (^ means NOT the following)

    You may search for an expression A or B as follow:

    "(John|Tom)"


    This will search for an occurrence of John or Tom. There should be nothing between the two expressions.

    You may combine A or B and C or D in the same search as follows:

    "(John|Tom)(Smith|Jones)"


    This will search for John or Tom followed by Smith or Jones.
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


    hth,
    Deep (just a guy)

    <pre><font face="courier" size="2">,-----------------------------.

    | Pradeep Kumar Nair, B.Math |

    | Graphic/Multimedia Designer |

    | ICQ#: 39102360 |

    | Medius Communications, Inc. |

    | http://www.medius.com |

    `-----------------------------'</font></pre>
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    hth,
    Deep (just a guy)
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    Pradeep Kumar Nair, B.Math
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    I'd have to say that FP gets my vote ... aside from hard coding in Notepad, I've tried DW, but was not very impressed. Haven't tried any of the others you mentioned.

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    Thanks Deep for Intro to RegExp 101 - much appreciated! Now to find time to sit down and play/put it into practice.

    Hi scsag!
    Well, whatever gets the job done, I always say! Hope that FrontPage has improved since the old bloated code days. Even though bandwidth becomes less and less an issue with high-speed cable/DSL hookups more commonplace, the pundits say we still only have 7 seconds to snag that viewer.

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    Hi girls,

    SCSAG - do you use FrontPage 2000? I'm not a big fan of it. Granted, it's MUCH better than it used to be (with Office '97 and all), but it's still a pain to use. I'll do veeeeeeeeery basic things with it, and for anything else I use UltraEdit or BBEdit (or PICO if I'm on a Unix machine...hehehehe). But 2000 has improved to the point where I can't turn my nose up at it anymore - even though it pains me to say it. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

    As for the RegExp stuff, no worries, Jen. It's actually REALLY easy once you start using it a bit. Have you done any Perl, yet? That's how I picked it up - just started making basic Perl scripts and it was a must-know. At first it was daunting, but not more than an hour or two later, I was using them as if I were born to it! Granted, I still find them annoying and non-intuitive, but hey...at least it's not Assembly Language! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]


    hth,
    Deep (just a guy)

    <pre><font face="courier" size="2">,-----------------------------.

    | Pradeep Kumar Nair, B.Math |

    | Graphic/Multimedia Designer |

    | ICQ#: 39102360 |

    | Medius Communications, Inc. |

    | http://www.medius.com |

    `-----------------------------'</font></pre>
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    hth,
    Deep (just a guy)
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    Pradeep Kumar Nair, B.Math
    CTO
    9 Story Entertainment
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    You might want to add Visual Interdev to the list. It's like FrontPage's big brother. It's got a bunch of cool features in the HTML editing view that helps with scripting, and it's also pretty powerful when working with databases.

 

 

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