I think again not referring to this case, overall designers are no longer designers and have limited their creativity by using templates and technology that has driven speed over creativity to deliver for the budget. I get it, when a client does not have enough money, most tend to resort to templates and you see examples galore. I mean look at DIV and you can see that every site is a sister or a brother of another LOL. Paul, no need to cut and paste my (Site under construction) to glorify yourself over my comments. Have a look at a few websites I did in the xara gallery. You have taken my comment which was a general one and thrown it at my face and made it a personal message. Really sad that you do that.