Bouton's stuff, Volume 2

[Gare]

For me personally I don't think everything needs a wireframe although they can be helpful Gare.

I agree. My intention was to take members "behind the scenes" to explain why Xara and vector art isn't totally dissimilar to modeling and vectors.

A water pipe, eh? You mean like a hookah?

Or a Dr. Hookah?

[Gare]

This is mostly an image using Xara.

The perspective, composition, the lines.

Then I made a bitmap copy and smeared it around a little with ArtRage.

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[wizard509]

This is mostly an image using Xara.

The perspective, composition, the lines.

Then I made a bitmap copy and smeared it around a little with ArtRage.

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This image is OK, the perspective adequate. If I were doing it I would change the lighting a little so the shade side would be darker and the eve would cast a shadow on the sun side, this would give it more depth, separate the planes, and help describe the structure. You might need to force the sun side sunnier while keeping the colors you have, change the cast ground shadow to reflect the change in sun angle. the value you used on the soffit appears more or less correct but it's hard to tell just yet. Certainly the cast shadow on the building should be the darkest, and shade side value somewhere in between the valuer of the cast shadow and the sun side with the soffit being lighter than either. If I have time tomorrow I'll do a put some transparencies over your image and make any other modifications I deem necessary for you. Hope I'm not being too critical. Mostly what I see is a value problem.

[Boy]

This image is OK, the perspective adequate. If I were doing it I would change the lighting a little so the shade side would be darker and the eve would cast a shadow on the sun side, this would give it more depth, separate the planes, and help describe the structure. You might need to force the sun side sunnier while keeping the colors you have, change the cast ground shadow to reflect the change in sun angle. the value you used on the soffit appears more or less correct but it's hard to tell just yet. Certainly the cast shadow on the building should be the darkest, and shade side value somewhere in between the valuer of the cast shadow and the sun side with the soffit being lighter than either. If I have time tomorrow I'll do a put some transparencies over your image and make any other modifications I deem necessary for you. Hope I'm not being too critical. Mostly what I see is a value problem.

Huh? Larry, you sound like a disgruntled teacher with a big, red pen who will show the pupil how such architectural art impressions ought to be done!

To me it's yet another show of Gare's creative genius that seems to be able to, seemingly effortless, produce all these 'little' works of art in an endless flow of styles and techniques. Humbling but also deeply inspirational.

[stygg2003]

Be honest Larry, would you off the top of your head have come up with a image as Gare as shown. I know I for one would never have dreamed of it and what is shown is why Gary is a walking art, vector and so on Master. He's just a genius and we should be thankful he shares it with all at Tg.

Not getting at you Larry but just reflect on what so many learnt from G.B. over the years and I suspect you will have been one amongst the many. I have the utmost respect for G.B. as I do for G.P. and I don't think I would be telling them how it should be done! it's called respect.

Stygg

[handrawn]

the piece in question is generic

make a basic image and swirl it around in artrage [or program of choice] - this is what students do in art school...

now don't get me wrong - when Gare does the 3D stuff he is a master... but this particular piece is different

Gare is quite entitled to do exactly what he wants, but lets not lose our sense of perspective [pun intentional] here...

judge the piece for what it it is, not who made it...

[Gare]

Hi stygg, Larry,, all—

Thanks for the feedback and please let me say I accomplished something I’d hoped for: group participation on tg. Yes, I did think enough of the Monopoly hotel and house pseudo painting to post it here, but fool disclosure is that I’m weak with perspective using drawing software and this was a chance to tighten up some of my skill. So it’s as personal piece and I probably should have typed “C&C welcome”, so Larry’s post didn’t come out of nowhere.

In any event, Larry was being a good and useful member as a critic, as was stygg for “moderating” my little gallery here. I appreciate the thought and am very pleased we have a dialog going on here.

Because tg is so underpopulated, I saw a tumbleweed rolling down Main Street.



My Monotony study eventually lead to an attempt to create an entire scene, in a photorealistic style, and my viewpoint deliberately low to suggest a larger scale then you usually see if you’re over 3’ 7”.



Here’s something was primarily to experiment with a Wacom Intuos Pro Paper Edition I had on loan. I’ve almost never used a tablet and stylus my entire time with a computer. I don’t know how I’d have drawn all the shading on the toast with the Pen tool. With the Wacom, it’s “daub, daub, daub” and before I knew it, I had a piece that really liked. The waft of steam is out of Flame Painter, something like $50 US and although All it does is stylize smoke, it’s save my Keative Kiester enough times that it’s a “keeper”.



Thank you for your honesty/insight, handrawn. I did do it as a personal, fairly trivial piece, but as I mentioned, I just pulled it out of a folder to draw (pun there) out some new and existing members to get the circulation going a little on tg.

BTW, Larry, thanks for sending the music video. Loved it, very sensitive!

Like me.




Gare

[wizard509]

Be honest Larry, would you off the top of your head have come up with a image as Gare as shown. I know I for one would never have dreamed of it and what is shown is why Gary is a walking art, vector and so on Master. He's just a genius and we should be thankful he shares it with all at Tg.

Not getting at you Larry but just reflect on what so many learnt from G.B. over the years and I suspect you will have been one amongst the many. I have the utmost respect for G.B. as I do for G.P. and I don't think I would be telling them how it should be done! it's called respect.

Stygg

To be honest Stygg, no I wouldn't have thought of that.
I too have learned much from Gare, and Egg too for that matter. Both have been my heroes for a long time.

[wizard509]

I agree. My intention was to take members "behind the scenes" to explain why Xara and vector art isn't totally dissimilar to modeling and vectors.

A water pipe, eh? You mean like a hookah?

Or a Dr. Hookah?

I do not know what a hookah is. When I was very young I saw what was called a water pipe, maybe that is the same I don't know.

[Gare]

Well, I believe that a hookah has a modern stepchild called e-sigs. Vaping, you know?

My comment was not well thought-out. Yes, a hookah can be used as a water pipe, but also as an opium device. The caterpillar in Alice through the Looking Glass, sitting a toadstool, wasn't packing water in his pipe.

Ah, how would I never know this stuff? I've never used recreational substances stronger than menthol cough drips.