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    Default Web link into one word

    I'm using Xara Web Designer Premium. Is there a way to have other web pages with web address in one basic word instead with special characters?
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    Default Re: Web link into one word

    Welcome to TalkGraphics - Can you give us an example of what you are talking about? Do you mean something like this?
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    Default Re: Web link into one word

    Hi XPhoto,

    Do you mean your pages end in something like #xl_xr_page_index instead of pagename.htm?

    If so this would mean you have you website set as a Supersite. Go to Utilities > Web Export Options > Conventional site to export all pages individually.

    Supersites combine all pages into one file - index.htm and then uses anchors to navigate through the pages. This is needed to achieve the transitional effects unfortunately.
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    Bug Re: Web link into one word

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob-Xar View Post
    Hi XPhoto,
    Do you mean your pages end in something like #xl_xr_page_index instead of pagename.htm?
    ...
    Supersites combine all pages into one file - index.htm and then uses anchors to navigate through the pages. This is needed to achieve the transitional effects unfortunately.
    Rob, are you saying Xara was unable to use Javascript to change the presented address (URL) of a current Supersite page to match the <DIV> IDs for that page?

    I can create a Supersite with the following:
    1. Page 0
      1. Page title (HTML <title>): Susan; Susan then appears throught the site as its Title!
      2. Page filename: tom
      3. Xara creates: class="xr_app xr_page0 xr_bgn_0_0_0" & id="xr_page0"
      4. Xara creates: <div id="xr_page_index"></div>; my page is tom not index!

    2. Page 1
      1. Page title (HTML: Title): Gladys; Gladys appears nowhere!
      2. Page filename: harriet
      3. Xara creates: class="xr_app xr_page1 xr_bgn_1_0_0" & id="xr_page1"
      4. Xara creates: <div id="xr_page_harriet"></div>

    Similarly, the hated "xl_xr_" prefix could be retired.

    I believe I advised this when Supersites erupted.
    Xara has done half a job with Supersites, Variants and, worse, Supersites with Variants.

    Acorn
    Acorn - installed Xara software: Cloud+/Pro+ and most others back through time (to CC's Artworks). Contact for technical remediation/consultancy for your web designs.
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    Default Re: Web link into one word

    Sure, and then what happens when you copy / paste and try to visit a URL where the page doesn't physically exist?

    "Xara has done half a job with Supersites, Variants and, worse, Supersites with Variants"

    Acorn, this isn't very helpful to the customer (or anyone in that matter). Of course with anything, there is always improvements that can be made to everything and if you have a suggestion, this can be posted through the dear Xara section. As always, we need to encourage replies that are constructive and to the aid of the subject in question. This applies to everyone, especially those in positions of responsibility like moderators.

    Kind Regards
    Rob
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    Default Re: Web link into one word

    As always, we need to encourage replies that are constructive and to the aid of the subject in question. This applies to everyone, especially those in positions of responsibility like moderators.
    Well that's very high handed & insulting Rob. Members of TG aren't puppets of Magix Xara. We aren't employed by Xara. Xara may well pay for the forum hosting but in return it gets a very cheap, quick and helpful 'support' channel. Xara shouldn't think they can demand 100% of blind loyalty from it's TG members nor moderators.

    The Dear Xara thread is a place of lost unanswered dreams.
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    Default Re: Web link into one word

    Xphoto has only checked this page once which I think was to post this question. Drive by posting?
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    Default Re: Web link into one word

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob-Xar View Post
    Sure, and then what happens when you copy / paste and try to visit a URL where the page doesn't physically exist?
    "Xara has done half a job with Supersites, Variants and, worse, Supersites with Variants"
    Acorn, this isn't very helpful to the customer (or anyone in that matter). Of course with anything, there is always improvements that can be made to everything and if you have a suggestion, this can be posted through the dear Xara section. As always, we need to encourage replies that are constructive and to the aid of the subject in question. This applies to everyone, especially those in positions of responsibility like moderators.
    Kind Regards Rob
    Rob, the solution has always been evident to me: you publish the HTML pages for each and every page. Then you add a redirect to the Xara internal URL. Meta redirects would be the simplest but would not handle anchors. So JavaScript to pick up the filename and anchor and convert to Xara's internal fluff. This handles external and intenral calls.

    The second part is to change the address URL from the Xara fluff back to the customer's designed links and anchors. The Title would need to be re-introduced from the parent/referrer URL or ensure it is actually part of the generated HTML.

    Supersites
    If you allow transitions across Vertical and Horizontal Supersites then the time delay is adequate to load in the called HTML page if it were a conventional design. You may have to pre-fetch other assets to minimise the download time to align to the transition time.
    Transitions are mainly gimmicky, effective on first viewing but pall quite quickly. They are a spin-off of Presentation site designs, where they have a place.
    Conventional sites, with payloads chunked in smaller parts are more sensible.

    Variants
    Mobile devices come pre-built in two orientations and the switch from one to the other is at the viewer's whim.
    Xara has decided, in its wisdom, to hide away the breakpoints where one Variant segues into another.
    Mobile views are invariably cleaner, smaller and compact.
    To try and design to accommodate all the screen profiles available is always going to be a compromise.
    Bundling all the Variant and Main code into one package defeats the concept of mobile being lightweight.
    Xara coul have considered its Variants to not be pixel placed and gone for a fluid design; CSS Grid comes to mind.

    Supersites with Variants
    Total download overload.
    Xara has never offered up design principles as to ensure the design does not corpse on initial loading and viewing.

    Dear Xara Threads are almost never replied to.

    When I point out a Bug it is to ensure that Xara understands the designer's viewpoint, it is not to be malicious, it is to provide a fuller context.
    I hope this constructively fleshes out my concerns.

    Moderates moderate. If I am contributing, I am adding to a discourse. I am not able to self-moderate and offer constructive criticism at the same time.

    Acorn
    Acorn - installed Xara software: Cloud+/Pro+ and most others back through time (to CC's Artworks). Contact for technical remediation/consultancy for your web designs.
    When we provide assistance, your responses are valuable as they benefit the community. TG Nuggets you might like. Report faults: Xara Cloud+/Pro+/Magix Legacy; Xara KB & Chat
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    Default Re: Web link into one word

    Quote Originally Posted by Egg Bramhill View Post
    Well that's very high handed & insulting Rob. Members of TG aren't puppets of Magix Xara. We aren't employed by Xara. Xara may well pay for the forum hosting but in return it gets a very cheap, quick and helpful 'support' channel. Xara shouldn't think they can demand 100% of blind loyalty from it's TG members nor moderators.

    The Dear Xara thread is a place of lost unanswered dreams.
    You mistake me, my previous comment was never anything about loyalty or the status of members. It's about the etiquette of the forums - in that threads quickly deviate off the original problem or contain information that is not helpful in solving it.

    There's a time and a place to discuss things, one thread at a time. If you have a questions about a particular feature, open a thread to discuss, don't jump onto the end of a another thread where a user needs help.
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    Default Re: Web link into one word

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob-Xar View Post
    You mistake me, my previous comment was never anything about loyalty or the status of members. It's about the etiquette of the forums - in that threads quickly deviate off the original problem or contain information that is not helpful in solving it.
    There's a time and a place to discuss things, one thread at a time. If you have a questions about a particular feature, open a thread to discuss, don't jump onto the end of a another thread where a user needs help.
    Thread management would be a full time undertaking. We Moderators sometimes carve out a salient point and create a new Thread in the Dear Xara Forum. To what purpose? If you are agreeing to respond to single issue Threads then we have a contract, but there has to be Xara feedback and commitment. Threads have their own life and a variable direction; if Xara would intercede early enough then the problem might not arise.

    Welded into the Xara Desktop application is the link, Help > More Xara [application] > Online forum. Rather than use the pop-up Noticeboard to promote Xara Cloud, please revert to a more relevant notice that inform the existence of Talkgraphics, where Xara staff, and others, will help resolve desktop application issues and problems.
    See how easy it is to deviate from an original Thread. Threads are linear, readers are not.

    Acorn
    Acorn - installed Xara software: Cloud+/Pro+ and most others back through time (to CC's Artworks). Contact for technical remediation/consultancy for your web designs.
    When we provide assistance, your responses are valuable as they benefit the community. TG Nuggets you might like. Report faults: Xara Cloud+/Pro+/Magix Legacy; Xara KB & Chat
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