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    At least they always think they are! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] I like it in green - I just think it would speak to me more with blue.

    Actually the most common "no print" colour used in architectural and engineering drafting is blue. Special drafting paper is sold with blue no-print graph lines. It was always too expensive for me. Instead I would use a no-print blue pencil for "construction lines". Eventually I learned to admire seeing visible construction lines in prints and started using 4h or 6h pencil.

    I will scan in one of my old hand-drafted details and turn it into xara art so i can post it. I was always accused of having too much fun with my drafting. I would do non-traditional things like draw all the woodgraining and draw shadows. Although bosses were disturbed by my style, clients usually liked my enthusiasm as demonstrated by the exuberant drafting.

    Regards, Ross

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    If you make a complete set and include snap to grid, you can play Scrabble on your PC.

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    Erik, you just reminded me of one of the first games I wrote on an Acorn Archimedes way back in the early nineties.

    I used the std Acorn vector package !Draw (possibly an inspiration for Artworks and therefore Xara? - it did have bezier curves, fills, fonts etc but was a little bit of a dog as I remember) to write a chess game for two players by drawing a chess board and the set of pieces which you could move about!

    James

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    Ross

    I really enjoy your posts, mini-tutorials and willingness to share techniques, I look forward to them. You are one of the experts here and seeing this exchange with Gary and others is very educational.

    SOOOO please don’t replace your “original” effort with the latest and greatest but post another so we can see the changes and compare!

    The subtleties are priceless and something no “how to” book can ever have. What a plus this Forum is!

    Bob C.

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    Peter - I should have known there'd be some scrabble players among us! Bad thing about doing this exercise in Xara is it is so easy to edit I've no excuses for not changing it. I'll do it later. (My wife hates it when I say that!).

    Erik - Ya I suppose that would work. The technique would also work for doing webgraphics. I'm thinking I should make a "themed set" that can be downloaded from my site for those who don't just do-it-themselves.

    Regards, Ross

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    That iso-tip is a good one, I could have used it a few times already.

    I hate being the new guy who doesn't know anything.

    There wouldn't be any hidden way in X to define shortcut keys (aka CorelDraw), would there?
    I really miss them for high speed drawing and viewing.

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    Gary - I think your logo design is fantastic! It looks perfect for a construction company. My only criticsm is the use of green. I'm inclined to think it could have been even more successful in blue. Blue lines could have a reference to the blueline prints that builders use.

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    I love the scrabble tiles, Ross. They look better than a photograph. To add a subtle touch of reality, I'd move the wood grain fill around on the tiles so that they don't all look like clones of one another. But they look great.

    Xara should use the image (after paying for the use of course) as the illustration for an ad for Xara X.

    Klaus. I cannot tell you how many times I have shot myself in the foot in a fit of creative self-righteousness. Or how many times I have "fallen on the sword" as we used to say.

    But in my old age, I have put my ego to one side and tried to work with my clients on a team basis whereby they provide input and criteria and I provide the design and condeptual solution. It works pretty well.

    There is a famous story in which Bill Bernbach was sitting in a meeting in which one of DDB's clients was railing on and on. Bill had written something on a piece of paper and from time to time, he would take this piece of paper out of his pocket, glance at it and put it back into his pocket.

    After the meeting, one of the creative team asked what was on the paper. Bernbach took out the piece of paper and showed it to him. On it was written,

    Maybe he's right?

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    Be It Even So Humble...

    [This message was edited by Gary W. Priester on April 25, 2001 at 05:20 PM.]

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    Bob C. - You are right about swapping images. It obscures the relevance of the subsequent posts and dimenishes our ability to learn from one another. I've gone back and returned the image to its original version. Rather than repost the edited image again I've created a new zoomed version that gives a better idea of the beveled text that Gary suggested. (The effect wasn't really visible in the unzoomed jpg).

    With regards to my being an "expert": I don't think so! I'm still learning what I can do with this sweet program. With the help of others, and by pushing myself, I know I will continue learn more. The methods and techniques I currently use are by no means the "proper" way to do things - they are just one way.

    Regards, Ross

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    Gary - Thanks! I went back and added a slight bevel to the letters and adjusted some of the fills. I substituted the revised image for the original. See above...

    Regards, Ross
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    EDIT - Since I originally posted this reply I went back and returned the original image. I've posted a zoomed version of the scrabble pieces that feature beveled text as Gary suggested. You can find that below - RM

    [This message was edited by Ross Macintosh on April 26, 2001 at 05:55 PM.]

 

 

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