Scribble April 3, 2018

**Rik** · 28 April 2018, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Ross Macintosh

Rules, rules, rules... unstated rules aren't really rules when the intent (again unstated) appears to be to have some creative fun.

Indeed, my uploaded images do not show the complete line. It does show more than 75% of the line repeated hundreds of times. The image was created by doing a 25-step blend between two copies of the provided line followed by another 25-step blend between two copies of the original blend. Then with lots of manipulation I ended up with a cropped subsection of the what had started as the second blend of blends. It was in that cropping that the lines reduced to about 75% of the original profile, reduced the extraneous repetition, and made the complexity more manageable. A copy of the cropped area was subsequently converted to shapes and the group of them further manipulated and layered with transparency effects & shadows, feathering, mirrors & flips of copies, etc., etc., for a few hours of "see where it leads" -likely unrepeatable- freeform fun.
There were times when it seemed the computer was going to crash. Living life on the edge -- with no rules!

Well, Ross.
There are some rules.
And in the case of the Scribble Challenge, the main rule is that you have to have the complete scribble in your drawing.

It's about creating something, using the entire scribble.

So, whilst your entry is, indeed, very creative, and we want everyone to participate, I can't say that it's in the spirit of the challenge.

**Ross Macintosh** · 28 April 2018, 02:45 PM

Rik - if you look you'll see there were no rules identified at the start of this challenge. You seem to assume any participants should be familiar with some distant past challenge where some 'rule' may have been stated. Is it another rule here that you can't participate unless you've read all past threads going back to year 2002?

I think you should forget such rules and just be happy that members participate.

By the way the image I posted used only the line provided. No other lines were drawn.

**wizard509** · 28 April 2018, 04:08 PM

I agree with Rik. I thought everyone understood that the entire scribble line is to be used and the rules do not need to be posted every time. You may change the line weight, add to the line but that is all.
the line result can show as positive or negative space, I did post the rules awhile back because I went around and around with Rik on this issue. Turns out what I thought I had submitted was not the what I thougtht it was. I had deleted part and didn't realize it so I thought the submission was what I had in mind but it wasn't. Anyway Rik has always been awesome with his scribbles, they are a thing of beauty.

**handrawn** · 28 April 2018, 04:26 PM

the whole point of the challenge is to use the line provided... if you can pick and choose segements - where is the challenge ?

I think you should forget such rules and just be happy that members participate

but it's not your thread

- you could always start one of your own ...

?

**wizard509** · 28 April 2018, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by handrawn

the whole point of the challenge is to use the line provided... if you can pick and choose segements - where is the challenge ?

Quite right.

**Ross Macintosh** · 28 April 2018, 06:10 PM

Now Handrawn is effectively saying if you don't play by the unstated rules - go away - you aren't welcome to participate. Apparently the only way you learn the rules is by inadvertently breaking the secret rules and be chastised for it. Not a very inclusive approach to what is supposed to be fun.

Please realize that in this forum, to which new members join everyday, there are people who will participate in such a challenge thread without knowing that apparently several years ago some rules were established. Do you really just want this to be insider's club where only people who know a set of unwritten rules are welcome and those who unwittingly take a step inside are driven out by the rules enforcers?

Grow up and please write down the rules the next time you start one of these challenges.

**handrawn** · 28 April 2018, 07:46 PM

Ross - I never said go away.. I just made a suggestion [as you did]

i don't think any one else in the whole time this challenge has been up has ever objected to the rules, once they knew what they were... Larry/Rik will correct me if I'm wrong..

[EDIT and when I said 'but it's not your thread' all I meant was it's for the OP to define the topic... right?]