What do you want Xara/Magix to do?

[gwpriester]

There are several grumbly threads venting frustration with how Xara/Magix have handled features and pricing for 365 category products. And while venting can be good therapy and provide valuable feedback for sales & marketing, most of the voices heard were negative and angry.

So, what I propose is a new thread (this one) in which I hope to continue this discussion but moving in a positive direction.

As users, and many of us loyal long time users, WHAT DO YOU WANT XARA and MAGIX TO DO?

BE POSITIVE and offer feedback and comments that are not just whinging but that offer constructive suggestions for what would make you as a Xara user happy?

Not a debate. Not a trash Xara forum. But one that can provide helpful direction to the people who develop and market the products we use.

I WILL DELETE comments that do not fit in with these simple parameters.

Are we good?

[gwpriester]

What I would hope for is for Xara to take a long hard look at the current product with an eye to just revisiting the current tools and functions and updating and improving these rather than add new features.

For example. The bitmap tracer is a bit long in the tooth? Can it be improved, more like Vector Magic, or should be be removed.

The Web Animations are great. But can we have more controls. Ditto with the new styles and ligatures feature.

So, that is my hope for the future.

[iamtheblues]

Kate Moir suggested in one of the othe angry threads that there were three options for the future of Xara, including a return to the yearly update model that was in place before.
This would make most people happy. We already waited over a year for very little, so I would be happy with one major improvement implemented each year for one of the following:

Open Type improvements

Open Type improvements and did I mention Open Type improvements?

If the code prevents this then the time should be spent redesigning the program from the ground up. Serif and Adobe have done this. Why not Xara?

Bob.

[angelize]

What I want Magix to do is to get more developers working so they can fullfill their be promises and finish unfinished features like brushes and open type support. And I would like to see the online designer grow much faster

[Boy]

The main thing I would like Xara/Magix to do right now is to reduce the Update Service price for XDP to around last year's level.

[csehz]

I would like if Xara would keep the concept of the Designer Pro as flagship - still the best Swiss Army Knife for graphical inspirations. I love that the program is fast that is key.

If Xara stays at the 365 model, then would like to have information in advance, what is under development. In the case of going back to the yearly update, then all the old July surprises are welcome, then the development directions can be in secret as the company likes (me too liked it)

I would like if Magix would respect the loyal Xara customers and having the subscription price on the original one

[Merlinski]

Logic, follow logic and common sense.

Firstly, (not most important, and it's a psychological thing)...the GUI, icons, colour scheme, needs refreshing to differentiate between new and older versions...sounds useless, but from a developer point of view it's a big deal for not a lot of work.

Features. Let's be honest, the price point, delivery method and update model are all well and good but if there's no new features/content it's all completely and utterly irrelevant.

Market Research (also known as looking at what everyone else is doing). Not difficult, have a look at Affinity and other vector software and what's creating a stir elsewhere. I can give you a few that I've been wanting for years...

Custom line heads and tails
Two decimal places in (mm) - not a feature, a fix
Better 3D extrusion (hasn't changed in years) extrude groups or a selection of objects in maintained perspective as opposed to individual perspective per object.
Rotate a group of points on the end of a bunch of lines (so you can achieve a twist effect, I know what I mean)
Proper Multi Monitor Support Options
Improve Vector Tracing
Improve Font Handling
Get back on the Import and Export development - it's the bridge that keeps Xara relevant no matter what ("Yeah, I can handle that file, throw it over")

Focus on original Strengths...Speed, fluidity, user friendliness - remember what made you so good in the first place, never stop optimising and refining.

Don't spend disproportionate amounts of development time on Website design features. (IMHO). Yes Xara can do it, and it's OK, but it's no market leader and strictly speaking the wrong tool for the job, you might want to refocus energy on being a bloody awesome drawing workstation.

Innovate. Not easy, but try to find some unusual USP. Harvest more thoughts (like this thread) from your user base. This could be more than a dipping of the toe into the 3D realm? Anyone remember ZBrush when it was merely a 2D 3D painter? Innovation that has led the software to new heights.

Equally, don't be afraid to clone tried, tested and loved features from elsewhere in the marketplace...what do you think Affinity has done from Xara?

It's time to ditch the same old dusty examples by the way, some of which I remember from in excess of ten years ago and are still knocking about today (the beatle, the watch, the old man) get rid, get flashy and zesty, this could lead to a bit of a rebrand...and I don't mean Magix version of a rebrand!

Xara was way ahead of the curve for a long time, which is why you may find it harder now, everyone else is catching/caught up. The good thing is this means even though not a lot has changed, Xara is still very much relevant...but for us time served Xarites we will need more.

There's a few thoughts, I could go on all night. lol

Oh...also...I know it costs, but many still like a physical media option, you might want to think about that.

GWP - How much of Xara is still developed in the UK, or operates from Gaddesden Place? What is the Magix involvement and how much control do they have now over the development?

[olledahl]

Hi,
I got a message that I had to update my prescription of XDP 365. I followed the link, got a price and when I was about to check out it had increased to $169. I aborted the update and when I tried again I got the pricing €119. Quite a difference in pricing I must say. So, I did my purchase.

Now I am not sure that I will update in the future as the errors using the updates are so plentyful that my company can't produce websites anymore - unless I go back to the functioning version that was released a year ago.

To bad, to expensive and to annoying.

Sad, as I have used XARA since the very first version so many years ago.

/Mr. Olle Dahlquist
Boden, Sweden

[gwpriester]

I have moved your comment to this thread https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...o&goto=newpost

[Egg Bramhill]

Hi Ray,

... so much focus on the online designer when Xara should be I my opinion, more focused on improving the core Web Design

I genuinely believe this is the way forward that Xara is aiming for. I think Xara will transform from desktop based software to an online, "cloud" type software. I could be very wrong but I think the base code (Camelot?) is so long in the tooth as not to be future proof and will eventually abandoned with a newer online designer. They are getting there slowly and have announced there will be some new developments in this area in the near feature.