At least give us a kiss(goodbye)

[frightful]

+1 Xara was nice while it lasted...

[maksimon]

XD365 a fantastic program, but it always lacked something compared to the top in the industry(though she always had that didn't have other). And that's why I really would like to see a roadmap from manufacturers. Use and will use but very hard to pay for subscription do not even understand in which direction the development.
If will not develop vector tools(!) for graphics, it will be a sad(.

[maksimon]

I call it "subscription"(although in xara do not think so), because I pay 130$ and wait ... wait .... and i don`t know what i get ... maybe the best software update, and maybe nothing interesting)).

[handrawn]

"grass is never greener, just a different shade" - nice, Steve.

the irony is bob, that grass only appears green because that is the one wavelength in the visible spectrum that grass cannot absorb, it is reflected; so you could argue that the one thing grass itself is not is green

it's all smoke and mirrors - bit like xara's marketing spiel...

[jmanganelli]

XD365 a fantastic program, but it always lacked something compared to the top in the industry(though she always had that didn't have other). And that's why I really would like to see a roadmap from manufacturers. Use and will use but very hard to pay for subscription do not even understand in which direction the development.
If will not develop vector tools(!) for graphics, it will be a sad(.

+1. A roadmap would be very welcome.

I must admit that this thread has me a bit dismayed. I've chosen xara as my preferred tool in breaking away from the adobe cc and am starting to wonder if I made the right choice. I picked up serif affinity designer as well, since it is so cheap, and have worked with it a bit as an alternative. At least with respect to drawing, I like the feel of xara better. Overall, they're both great tools, but I prefer Xara and it is a more mature and full-featured program at this point. But I've used xara long enough to understand the criticism. For now I'll take a wait and see approach, use both, and hope that I can settle on one sooner than later.

[bobmurden]

Nice and Civil and on topic.....
I've just been reminded my Designer pro is now out of cover. The web linked page is asking me for £139. Is this an error? Last years update was £75.00 This is an increase of 85%.
Also we have had our activation count reduced to 2. 3 was great and nobody wants to pratt about registering and deregistering software.
This is 56% more expensive than Office 365 which has 5 activation's plus 1 tablet and 1 phone for nowt, and 32% more than the Photoshop/Lightroom combo
Given that your subscription money is payment in advance for the prospect of services rendered, rolling a re-install back to the subscription date is taking away what we paid for in the first place.
Proshow have got round this and link you to the last version before your free updates expired. This is fair
Given that upgrade paths help to stem piracy and develop loyal high lifetime value customers the price needs to around the same as the old upgrade system which was traditionally about 25% of the full new price.
Photoshop CC is actually a lot cheaper than the 2 yearly updates were, and Office around the same price as the previous upgrades.
Also something needs to be done for senior citizens who wish to remain active after retirement but cannot run to several subscriptions eating away the pension.

So is this £139 a mistake or what?

Bob,
Since Webstyle 2.

[iamtheblues]

So is this £139 a mistake or what?

Bob,
Since Webstyle 2.

No mistake, Bob, of that you can be quite sure. It is greed, no more, no less.
You would be better off getting to grips with Affinity Designer and steer clear of the mess that is Xara/Magix.
Bob.

[haakoo]

To bad that none of the regular members reacted when they're being pulled one over.
Only the same seem to resist injustice.
Yes I did express deliberately the word injustice and that is a word everybody seems to be full about nowadays but don't seem to grasp to its full extent.
Resistance starts with the small things and the way people here go about things is like this.
We screw you
You may rant about it
We explain ourselves but give nothing or no real answers
We give our moderators instructions to let us rant a bit more.
We give our moderators instructions to close the thread.
Done deal go back to business as usual and show them the finger

I think this is real mature behavior from a so called company.
[as they said in the transcription of the Nixon Tapes - EXPLETIVE DELETED]

[Acorn]

To bad that none of the regular members reacted when they're being pulled one over.
Only the same seem to resist injustice.
Yes I did express deliberately the word injustice and that is a word everybody seems to be full about nowadays but don't seem to grasp to its full extent.
Resistance starts with the small things and the way people here go about things is like this.
We screw you
You may rant about it
We explain ourselves but give nothing or no real answers
We give our moderators instructions to let us rant a bit more.
We give our moderators instructions to close the thread.
Done deal go back to business as usual and show them the finger

I think this is real mature behavior from a so called company.
[as they said in the transcription of the Nixon Tapes - EXPLETIVE DELETED]

haakoo, I am not in anyone's pocket.
I have been a questioning thorn in the side of Xara from the first suggestion of the support model.
No instructions have come from anywhere to allow ranting to continue - I will block a rant or at least try to redirect the conversation.
I have just argued to keep a Thread open and that is yielding some insights.
Xara's direction appears to be driven by Magix but their corporate agreements are not in my scrutiny.

Raise you concern.
Accept the response as Xara's position.
Use logic to try and persuade a change of direction.
Place a single concept at a time in the Dear Xara... section.

Acorn

[Panchdara]

Fortunately I can afford any upgrade, but out of principle, I am now an Affinity customer. I'll keep the 10, 11 and 365 of Xara, but that's me. Unless they deactivate (illegally) my current version, I'll just use what I have and be done with any further Xara product. I do believe it a capable and useful tool, but throwing good money at "something", that doesn't care about our concerns, really hurts. Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice... NOT.