Expiration of Designer Pro

[katemoir]

oops, I didn't mean to kick off another feature wish list debate! But what you say about Pro features missing from PGD is interesting, *maybe* there is something we can do there.

You won't persuade me to make our development schedule public I'm afraid, but since there are 2 releases coming very soon it would seem a bit odd not to mention them now. First there is a major update to Online Designer. We are spending quite a lot of development time on that at the moment (remote editing of Xara documents on any device including MACs, iPads and Android tables, and collaborative editing - you can hopefully see why those two things are important to us). There is also a mainly-content update to Designer Pro coming soon. I can hear you groaning already, but in our defense I would just mention that in the most recent surveys only 5% of Designer Pro 365 owners and 3% of Web Designer Premium 365 owners said they never used the Content Catalog content!

[mwenz]

...But what you say about Pro features missing from PGD is interesting, *maybe* there is something we can do there. ...

Make P&GD = XDP without web stuff and I would be the first to buy a copy.

But to keep me upgrading, Xara really does need to deal with past, present & future features in a more meaningful manner.

Mike

[Boy]

@ Kate: But what about this exorbitant price increase that was silently introduced while a year ago Xara promised us that a year hence the update fee would be similar? That was the deal you made with us!

In addition, I can't follow your reasoning that due to the frequent updating, Xara's costs increased and therefore the price had to be raised (why only in the case of XDP and not the other apps?). You introduced the new scheme and told us it would be in our interest even though no one wanted it. Now you're telling us that we have to pay 30% more because of the frequent updating!?! That sounds like double-talk to me.

Finally, some people here want to remove all the web features from XDP but I'm not one of them. I like it very much that all the features are being made available in one program.

[mwenz]

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Finally, some people here want to remove all the web features from XDP but I'm not one of them. I like it very much that all the features are being made available in one program.

With Kate's seemingly going to visit the concept of adding in the so-called Pro features from XDP to P&GD, I could care less what the state of XDP becomes.

Mike

[handrawn]

With Kate's seemingly going to visit the concept of adding in the so-called Pro features from XDP to P&GD, I could care less what the state of XDP becomes.

Mike

again I agree with Mike - let there be a 'flagship' for those who need both web and drawing - but whilst needing web without the drawing may be relatively rare, needing the drawing and not the web is common; and at risk of bashing the poor old defunct equine, it is pointless us paying for stuff we will not use... if I want a website built bespoke I'll pay someone.. maybe one of you guys... - I just don't have the time to do everything myself...

[Boy]

With Kate's seemingly going to visit the concept of adding in the so-called Pro features from XDP to P&GD, I could care less what the state of XDP becomes.

Mike

Charmingly put!

[Stewart]

As a very long time user I do feel cheated and yes, I do think calling it a subscription based upgrade system' is a scam to screw more money out of it mainly because, as others have pointed, there is nothing tangible we are actually getting for our hard earned other than a blank and vague promise of upgrades, with no details of what those upgrades are...it's a bit like paying for your shopping in advance without knowing what and if anything will actually be delivered that you like...it is quite ridiculous, and apart from a 33% increase in the usual price.

Now, if they had called it an annual service package, that might have been different.....

I've upgraded, but over the next year if they don't change the system radically I'll be porting all my webs and needs to other software.

[csehz]

I like it very much that all the features are being made available in one program.

+ 1 I also very much like it.

Because

1) There have to be a flagship application, like the Samsung Galaxy S8 phone now, which knows everything.

2) Beside of that as Gare teached for long here, the best to use Xara Designer Pro as a hub! Where other applications meet, because it is the fastest and versatile.

3) Plus personally I never know which functions I need today and will need in the future, so need the Xara Designer Pro which is capable for any inspirations.

But this is a little bit off topic in this thread, as the point here is that Desinger Pro expiring in the silence and if the customer is not vigilant enough, then have to pay more. Which is dirty marketing tactic as the company plays like that with the loyal customers.

[haakoo]

You won't persuade me to make our development schedule public I'm afraid, but since there are 2 releases coming very soon it would seem a bit odd not to mention them now. First there is a major update to Online Designer. We are spending quite a lot of development time on that at the moment (remote editing of Xara documents on any device including MACs, iPads and Android tables, and collaborative editing - you can hopefully see why those two things are important to us). There is also a mainly-content update to Designer Pro coming soon. I can hear you groaning already, but in our defense I would just mention that in the most recent surveys only 5% of Designer Pro 365 owners and 3% of Web Designer Premium 365 owners said they never used the Content Catalog content!

So in other words you want to take our money and invest in third party nicknacks wich anyone with internet can find themselves?
You validate this by pointing out that your sales makes you go in this direction?

Uhm,if you only market that thing to the people,they will think you do only that thing because they were looking for that thing in the first place and buy that thing,don't you think?

You conveniently didn't answer the real question why you upped the price and changed the conditions and not informing us about it.
Because i didn't recieve a mail as customer.
I can't find it on the xara.com site where it still says update prices will be as usual.
I can't find it in your official newletter the xara outsider.
I can't find it on the official xara page on facebook.

If you'll be so kind pointing where to find this and I will shutup about it.

Hans

[dutchim]

O boy more contend for Designer Pro...

... And does anyone even use the Online Editor?