Expiration of Designer Pro

[tonylondon]

If you wait a year before considering renewing, you'll know exactly what you will be getting! You'll be back to the old model. If the improvements are not worth the asking price then there's no point in renewing. (Perhaps there is a flaw in what I am saying)
Incidentally the DVD is of no use to me, as I don't have a DVD drive. Xara could save some money there by not sending them.

[Acorn]

If you wait a year before considering renewing, you'll know exactly what you will be getting! You'll be back to the old model. If the improvements are not worth the asking price then there's no point in renewing. (Perhaps there is a flaw in what I am saying)
Incidentally the DVD is of no use to me, as I don't have a DVD drive. Xara could save some money there by not sending them.

Tony, the old model was a Xara-application Find (seemingly flawed through) and ongoing access to the On-Line Content Catalogue. If you remember to download everything locally, the new model offered tons of business templates for free.

@Barbara, unless Kate wants to close this Thread, I would opt for it to keep open as it is a dialogue.
TGers should respect the opportunity by not escalating.

Thanks,
Acorn

Acorn

[csehz]

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[iamtheblues]

Hi Barbara,
I would appreciate this thread remaining open. There are valid points here from both sides that could do with finding an equable solution.
Edit:
Also, the subject matter is an important one for all on TG as it relates to a sensitive subject.
Close it, and like a plague of moles it will keep on popping up all over the place.
At least it is contained here. By all means, move it lock, stock and barrel to Dear Xara, if you think it would help.
Bob.

[iamtheblues]

@ Tony. A nice idea, but I wonder what would happen further down the line after not having renewed in the meantime.
Would we be allowed to pick and choose with hindsight, which upgrades we would pay for? Sound a bit complicated to me.

[handrawn]

Perhaps there is a flaw in what I am saying

no flaw if you never use the OCC - you back up the gallery designs you need - you can always find your way around them outside of windows [a decent third-party file explorer alternative should be able to do that]

but you may not be able to see what's new in the design gallery before you buy [over which I will lose no sleep because that's not what I am using the program for]

[gwpriester]

Barbara B (Administrator) writes:

Sorry to interrupt the good time you all are having , but I believe Kate's post is hard and fast. She represents the company, and she was candid about her personal feelings on the subscription decision.

So if there is nothing more to add, are we done here? You can vote with your feet as they say.

[katemoir]

@ Tony, I can't see a flaw with that suggestion, as I recall way back in the very first thread on the Update Service I made a similar suggestion. Wait a year, and then buy the upgrade/ renewal if you want what’s new, and I think in all important respects you are back at the old model.

@ Acorn, we've considered a few different ways of delivering relevant bug fixes if you are installing on a new machine after expiry, via the update mechanism or otherwise, one way or another that should be working for everyone now. I noted Handrawn’s comment about everything in 12.6 working, and to be honest I was surprised - but if that’s the case then I think everyone will be happy

I think that answers any questions that I haven’t already answered, and we are surely repeating questions and answers from earlier in this thread, not to mention quite a few previous threads on the same subject. So yes please Barbara. If there are genuinely new questions let’s continue on Dear Xara - or of course many of you asking the questions have my email address!

[Acorn]

@ Acorn, we've considered a few different ways of delivering relevant bug fixes if you are installing on a new machine after expiry, via the update mechanism or otherwise, one way or another that should be working for everyone now. I noted Handrawn’s comment about everything in 12.6 working, and to be honest I was surprised - but if that’s the case then I think everyone will be happy

Kate,this discovery (and I am holding my breath) will be a major transformation indeed! Those of us who need all the offerings of the On-line Content Catalogue (OCC) can download ahead of expiry; Xara could offer a DVD set for a sensible charge. Knowing the structure of the Local Gallery files, a separate utility could be constructed to augment the loss of the OCC and the Find function.

What's not to like?
Acorn

[iamtheblues]

The price?