Gold Color Foil Printing

[digitalphaser]

Hi,

Task: the label with gold elements.
Print method: CMYK knockout with foil fill

Foil is silver. What CMYK values are necessary to get the gold? 24k

Who has a similar experience? Please.

While I chose this color 5%-10%-70%-0%.

Thanks!

[gwpriester]

Is this foil hot stamp? In which case can't you just specify a gold foil?

[digitalphaser]

I think it should be multicolor overprinting on silver foil.

[mwenz]

I think it should be multicolor overprinting on silver foil.

Nothing is going to print on the foil So what exactly do you mean?

Also, silver foil (the reflective/luminescence qualities of it) is going to have a healthy contrast to CMYK unless on good quality hi-gloss paper. Have you or the client considered using a Pantone for the gold?

In any case, the last CMYK print I did it was decided to go with 22 / 40 / 100 / 5 for the values. But there are so many gold mixes, it really is a near subjective choice.

[digitalphaser]

Have you or the client considered using a Pantone for the gold?

Ha. It's always difficult with the client. I have been asking them to consult in a printing house what they want. Patience and relax.

In any case, the last CMYK print I did it was decided to go with 22 / 40 / 100 / 5 for the values. But there are so many gold mixes, it really is a near subjective choice.

Basically, I thought so. Ideally I would like to get to the background color. If possible.



Thank you for the info.

[gwpriester]

Mike and digitalphaser - Printers have special foils, all the metalic colors, white, black and multicolor which they apply with a special device. I have never heard of this as part of the CMYK printing process and I have done a fair amount of this process in the past.

http://www.printingforless.com/Hot-Foil-Stamping.html

[mwenz]

So the foil is going to be the letters proper.

Is the CMYK going to be an image like shown? Are you rebuilding it and using a gradient for the "long shadow," 3D effect behind the foiled letters?

If you wan to simply get pretty close, you can create a rectangle (I lay them on top of the image somewhat) and with it selected, use the color picker on a part of the image, move it around until the rectangle hits the color desired. And you can do the same with a gradient in that you can use the color picker for the start/end stops.

For the Foil itself, once you get the design otherwise ready, create a second page (assuming a one-page design anyway), copy the text or the text shapes and paste in place on the second page. Use a Pantone color (but not any of the libraries that are really CMYK like the Bridge libraries) to color the text/text shapes. That will put the items to be either hot/cold foil in a single plate on the last page of the PDF.

Mike

[mwenz]

Yes, Gary.

The SILVER foil appears to be the lettering. Read my response that just hit.

[digitalphaser]

So the foil is going to be the letters proper.

Is the CMYK going to be an image like shown? Are you rebuilding it and using a gradient for the "long shadow," 3D effect behind the foiled letters?

If you wan to simply get pretty close, you can create a rectangle (I lay them on top of the image somewhat) and with it selected, use the color picker on a part of the image, move it around until the rectangle hits the color desired. And you can do the same with a gradient in that you can use the color picker for the start/end stops...

I do not trust pipettes. It's not vector gradient, it's bitmap image. I compared the image color with CMYK book.

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For the Foil itself, once you get the design otherwise ready, create a second page (assuming a one-page design anyway), copy the text or the text shapes and paste in place on the second page. Use a Pantone color (but not any of the libraries that are really CMYK like the Bridge libraries) to color the text/text shapes. That will put the items to be either hot/cold foil in a single plate on the last page of the PDF.

Mike

It's clear. Thank you Mike.

[digitalphaser]

Mike and digitalphaser - Printers have special foils, all the metalic colors, white, black and multicolor which they apply with a special device. I have never heard of this as part of the CMYK printing process and I have done a fair amount of this process in the past.

http://www.printingforless.com/Hot-Foil-Stamping.html

Not sure. But I saw the their previous products. It does not look like hot stamping.