Well, Gare, you mentioned Corel twice, and honestly, I was a fan and user of Micrografx Designer and Picture Publisher back in the day, I'd used Micrografx for 10 years before and the first years operating a graphic design studio. CorelDraw was in direct competition with Micrografx, and Corel having more money bought them out then flushed Designer and Picture Publisher down the drain. I still used Micrografx for 5 years or so using the last version. I finally moved to Xara X1, rather than to ever look at Corel - they did me wrong, so I was not going to look at their software ever... I don't have anything nice to say about Corel.