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    Default Questions about spaces in page titles

    In the past week or two that I've been checking around with google about various things concerning websites, I found something that makes me question what I should do.

    I bought Xara web designer 11 premium and started putting together a redesign of my website last summer. I didn't really know much about web design protocols so when I made up different pages for my website, I just named them without thinking much about it. I do custom picture framing, so some pages have a single word name, for example "needlework'. But some have 2 or more words, for example 'sports framing' or 'original art photography'. And that's how I typed them - with the spaces.

    I have just recently read that it's not necessarily a good idea to use spaces in page names. Not that it's bad or will hurt anything, but wherever a space is, the symbols "%20" will be there instead (sports framing will show as sports%20framing) This was news to me. I checked in firefox, and the spaces are there. When I checked in chrome, sure enough, it had the %20 where the spaces were.

    I guess the thing is that this could be confusing if someone wants to share your website/page. So I thought I would do as suggested on some of these websites and just replace the 'space' with a 'hyphen'.

    But then I thought of a potential problem that I have no idea if it would be the case or not, so I'm bringing that question here to people that know much more than me.

    Being that my pages are starting to do better in search results for certain search terms, for example - "framing a hockey jersey near kingston pa" - I actually come up first in google and the link on that result is to my page "www.wolframes.com/sports%20framing.htm".

    Question #1: If I change that page's name from "sports framing" (with the space) to "sports-framing" (with the hyphen) will it goof up the google result so that people who click the "sports%20framing" link will get a 404 page not found?

    Question #2: Do I leave the "sports%20framing" page there, but have it be empty with just a redirect to the "sports-framing" page? (Not that I even know how to do an automatic redirect, that would be more research and learning) I could just do a manual link for a person to click, that would be easy, until google starts to crawl the new page names and show them as results.

    Question #3 Do I just change it and google will eventually catch up to show the new page name? I'll lose some people clicking on it (if it would show the 404 error), but I don't really get much traffic (which is what I'm trying to work to change), but then again, every potential customer is important, and I'd like more of them.

    Thanks in advance for your insights.
    Mark.

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    Default Re: Questions about spaces in page titles

    The % indicates a space. You can use a dash or underscore in your page title in the Website Properties > Page section to avoid this.

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    Default Re: Questions about spaces in page titles

    Personally, unless you are getting a large number of hits, I'd just bite the bullet and change the names of the pages to those using hyphens for spaces, and await Googles bots to pick up the changes. You can speed this up by using Google Webmaster Tools to speed up the process and supply a up to date site map. You can generate a sitemap using something like this.

    If you really did want to have your original page titles & new ones with a redirect the redirect is quite simple using:

    <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;URL='sports-framing.htm'" />
    I wouldn't bother though. Just use Google Webmaster Tools
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    Default Re: Questions about spaces in page titles

    Quote Originally Posted by gwpriester View Post
    The % indicates a space. You can use a dash or underscore in your page title in the Website Properties > Page section to avoid this.
    The %20 indicates a space.

    It's the ASCII Hexadecimal code for space. % means a hexadecimal number follows.

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    Default Re: Questions about spaces in page titles

    I think I am going to bite the bullet and just change the page names. But, good idea about making a new site map and giving it to google to help it find the new page names quicker. I hadn't thought of that.

    Right now I'm in the middle of adding open graph tags and the facebook button widgets to my pages. After that, I'll publish the new pages and see how things go.

    I happened to try doing a search on Yahoo and Bing (I don't normally use those myself when I search for something). I don't come up anywhere near as good as on google. But I'll worry about that some other time.

    Thanks.

 

 

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