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    Question Scaling issue workaround?

    I know this has been discussed in the forum before, but I don't find the thread anymore. Anyhow:

    When I scale an object horizontally or vertically, then individual parts are moved, not scaled. This is, of course, not what I want. I figured that I can press Alt when using the handles, and then scaling is back to normal. However, when entering dimensions manually, then the issue persists.

    What is the workaround for Xara's scaling oddness?

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    Default Re: Scaling issue workaround?

    What program? Can you provide an example?
    ~Fred

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    Default Re: Scaling issue workaround?

    I think you are referring to Lock Aspect Ratio.

    When this option is enabled, selections scale proportionately. When it is disabled, selections scale independently horizontally or vertically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred C View Post
    What program?
    Designer Pro X11.

    Can you provide an example?
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    After entering W 1000px in the Infobar, then hitting enter:
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    I'd expect the drawing to scale, but instead some unwanted magic is happening.

    Quote Originally Posted by gwpriester View Post
    I think you are referring to Lock Aspect Ratio.
    No, and that's disabled.

    The question is: Bug or feature? And is there an easy workaround?

    Concerning workaround, I found that the issue does not happen when scaling width and height. Say the drawing is 1000×1000 px², and you want to change width to 1200 px, then:
    1. Scale the drawing in both directions, for example to: 800×800 px²
    2. Scale the drawing in both directions to 1200×1000 px².

    Cumbersome, obviously.

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    Default Re: Scaling issue workaround?

    Scaling is proportional in both directions. Stretching is what you are doing when only one dimension is altered and the lock aspect is not active.

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    Default Re: Scaling issue workaround?

    first, what template did you use?
    also, scaling, no matter how it's done will scale everything. going from 1000 to 1200 including openings and if not on a separate layer, doors, stair treads, etc. will stretch 20% also. no matter what, it's gonna be hard to stretch bits and pieces without affecting others

    one thing you can do so it doesn't stretch from the middle is after selecting what you want to stretch then just to the left of the x and y position on the top change the origin position from center to the middle left or right block (kinda looks like a rubik's cube). then it'll stretch from that direction and not proportionally from the center
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    Default Re: Scaling issue workaround?

    Seems it may be related to groups; could you post the .xar file for your .png examples?
    ~Fred

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    Quote Originally Posted by feklee View Post
    I know this has been discussed in the forum before, but I don't find the thread anymore. Anyhow:

    When I scale an object horizontally or vertically, then individual parts are moved, not scaled. This is, of course, not what I want. I figured that I can press Alt when using the handles, and then scaling is back to normal. However, when entering dimensions manually, then the issue persists.

    What is the workaround for Xara's scaling oddness?
    Interestingly, I've just updated my course discussing this web feature. It is known as "group squashing" (also search help file) and applies only in web documents. When a group is stretched/squashed, it is not done so affinely like would happen in print documents; instead the constituent objects aren't stretched and only their positions are changed. Apparently, the rationale for this is that in web documents, when stretching/squashing headers or footers eg in mobile site variants, it's more useful for this kind of squashing behaviour. As you've discovered, you can Alt-toggle to revert back to affine scaling. Alternatively, you can use a print document or permanently turn this off by setting the registry entry Dragging\EnableGroupSquash to 0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xhris View Post
    Interestingly, I've just updated my course discussing this web feature. It is known as "group squashing" (also search help file) and applies only in web documents. When a group is stretched/squashed, it is not done so affinely like would happen in print documents; instead the constituent objects aren't stretched and only their positions are changed. Apparently, the rationale for this is that in web documents, when stretching/squashing headers or footers eg in mobile site variants, it's more useful for this kind of squashing behaviour. As you've discovered, you can Alt-toggle to revert back to affine scaling. Alternatively, you can use a print document or permanently turn this off by setting the registry entry Dragging\EnableGroupSquash to 0.
    WHAT? were you on holiday a couple of weeks ago when this "issue" with web document was discussed >HERE<?
    heh
    registry entry now edited and it's beautiful. web doc all stretchy again like all the other docs/design templates.
    thx Xhris!

 

 

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