Using scroll bars on a web page

**scucca** · 15 July 2015, 10:59 AM

This has probably been asked before, but I haven't found anything by searching.

I am creating a new web-site and want standard size pages ... but some of the pages have more text than will fit, so I thought ... easy, just insert a scroll bar and let the viewer scroll through it. I have hunted high and low but just can't find how to do it.

Help please.

**pauland** · 15 July 2015, 11:31 AM

some of the pages have more text than will fit

Reduce the text, or make the page longer. Scrollable text in boxes is yucky.

**gwpriester** · 15 July 2015, 12:06 PM

What exactly is a "standard" size page?

I agree with Paul. Make your page deeper for more text.

But to do this unless you want all the pages the same size, disable [ ] All Pages in Website the Same Size in Page Options > Page Size.

**scucca** · 15 July 2015, 03:25 PM

Thanks Paul and GW for the replies.

Seems odd that Xara can't do scroll bars as it would make life so much easier, and Paul ... they don't have to be yucky ... honestly. The problem is that I want a standard size (i.e. a sensible same size for all pages rather than a hotchpotch of different sizes

Thanks anyway.

Emma

**gwpriester** · 15 July 2015, 03:38 PM

OK Emma. Here's a Google search of TG for scrolling text boxes and how to achieve this. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=scrolling+...ics.com&t=ffsb

**pauland** · 15 July 2015, 03:49 PM

a sensible same size for all pages rather than a hotchpotch of different sizes

Now I would agree entirely! ..if this was a book..

You'll find that the size of almost all website pages varies according to the content.

It's only in the world of Xara that they don't, and that's simply a hangover from the idea that Xara was a drawing program, then supported multi-page print and now multi-page websites.

There's nothing 'hotchpotch' about a website having different size pages. It's normal. Designers do not design web pages to fixed heights. I have added an example of a responsive site (not mine). None of the pages are the same length. This is entirely normal.

Non yucky scrolling text with scrollbars? I don't think so!

Anyway, good luck.

**Cloud** · 15 July 2015, 06:44 PM

I agree that having scrolling text is not a good idea but if that's what you want then the link provided by gary will put you on the right track.

There is a very recent trend in responsive websites which has no chrome (no headers, no footers, no navigation bars and no borders, etc) and this uses 100% width and 100% height on an image (usually) with text which fits the viewport no matter the display size (ie. responsive text) this way there are no scroll bars at all, but you would still need to have roughly the same amount of text on each page.

I believe you can create a 100% width image and perhaps 100% height as well and then add your text in a scroll box and this would still be effective.

**pauland** · 15 July 2015, 10:54 PM

you would still need to have roughly the same amount of text on each page.

I'm not sure I follow that reasoning (or agree with it). Can you explain?

Naturally, there are still scrollbars, but they are for the page, not some text section.

**Cloud** · 16 July 2015, 12:11 PM

I don't agree with it either (as I said) just pointing out that if it was to be done how to do it, there are sites out there which have no scroll bars for the page, for instance the main section of this site http://chulakov.com/ or this whole site http://www.yaranyared.com/ , it's nothing new. It's just not something that could be done with xara (probably)

**pauland** · 16 July 2015, 12:28 PM

Xara allows for any page size you wish so, you can fit the page size to the content and avoid using vertical scrollbars around any text. The only time that isn't possible is when people are using iFrames to present external content that can vary.

Emma, I hope you'll reconsider the view that web pages need to be of uniform length and check out a few web sites not built with Xara.

I think you'll find two things:

Firstly, the web page sizes vary in length inside the site according to the content they have,
Secondly, you don't really care about the page lengths (or that they are different) on those sites.

Take this page http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33546352
and this page http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/...4-5c736ed149ce

Both part of BBC news. Nobody cares that one page is longer than the other.

Please consider making the page as long as it needs to be to fit the content.

Paul