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    Default The story of two men who changed the world - for better or worse

    No matter what you think about them the fact is that these two changed the world as we know it.

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    Default Re: The story of two men who changed the world - for better or worse

    My only minor connection to Bill Gates, aside from being a PC Windows user, back in the 1970's, my Dad was learning the ropes of writing software. He had FoxPro 1.0, a Microsoft product, and had some issues with the software, so called Microsoft on the telephone for help. At the time Microsoft was working out of Bill Gates home. My Dad got a secretary who suggested he speak with Bill. So my Dad had an hour long conversation with Bill Gates. At the end of the conversation, Bill offerred my Dad a position as software tester, and my Dad wasn't interested... I think this was 1977.

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    Wow, great story that really shows how these guys started out, I bet the 'secretary' was his mum. The closest I had to anything like that was meeting Clive Sinclair back in 1983 with my dad and discussing everything wrong and right with the ZX81.
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    I find that whole article was written from a perspective not from the present time that it happened but from the 00's or even later and from a U.S. view point. Also I find the rational used distorted in many ways as it took no account of computer developments from other O.S.'s that were around at the time as it was all based on just the two companies. Think about the companies who took the technologies further than both these two companies did in both the 70's, 80's and even the 90's. I think the discussions should be more aimed at the chip manufacturers than the G.U. interface but I suppose that it makes better reading to focus more on the personalities which both men took on. Just think if a consul type Atari/Amiga of home computer had won the war we could have been plugging in a cartridge to use DTP or another to do spreadsheets, or hell, even a RISC OS Arm based home computer which was by far the fastest of all the desktop type of home computers around in the late 80's through to the middle 90's. Just shows what a bit of showmanship and hype does and did to what we call a desktop computer. Will there be articles like that between Apple & Google for the fight between mobile G.U.I.'s there should be.
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    I think Jobs and Gates have Alan Turing to thank for their careers.

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    Default Re: The story of two men who changed the world - for better or worse

    I don't think anyone is claiming that gates and certainly not jobs were some computer geniuses to the level of people like turing, as gates said to jobs once when the later accused the former of theft of ideas “Well, Steve, I think there’s more than one way of looking at it. I think it’s more like we both had this rich neighbor named Xerox and I broke into his house to steal the TV set and found out that you had already stolen it.” But the fact remains that 90% of all computers have run windows and apple is the most valuable company ever, and perhaps will be the first trillion dollar company pretty soon. Believe me I'm no fan of either man but their contribution to the world cannot be doubted.
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    Default Re: The story of two men who changed the world - for better or worse

    This is sort-of related..

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19665632

    I used to teach evening classes (BASIC programming) using the Apple II back in the day (but I used to use 'real' computers before then).

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    Default Re: The story of two men who changed the world - for better or worse

    I see that the recycling company are offering her 50% of the sale price, something tells me that she will be asking for the full 100%, it would be easy for her to say that it was thrown out by mistake. Let the court proceedings begin!
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    Very interesting Paul. Made me stop and think. What looks like junk might not be.
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    Larry, just post any old Apple junk to me. I'll recycle it for you..

 

 

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