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  1. #91
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    Default Re: January 2015 Video Tutorial -- Tracing Is Not Cheating!

    @ stygg—

    You're a lot more successful than you give yourself credit for, stygg. Wat you did is QUITE remarkable. I didn't really expect anyone to take me up on this challenge because on the surface, it looks insurmountable, buy I do believe you did it!

    Three thumbs up!

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    Default Re: January 2015 Video Tutorial -- Tracing Is Not Cheating!

    Love your drawings Rik & Stygg.

    Possibly off-topic but in 1970 I had some leave due and worked as a docker for six months in Shoreham, Brighton, on the south coast of the UK. A lot of the trade was wine from Spain which was all in wooden casks. I can't remember now whether they where Tuns or Butts. The dock company employed a full-time Cooper to repair defective casks (obviously empty ones!). It always fascinated me watching this man work, repairing the barrels. There wasn't a straight edge on any plane. If he needed to make a new stave it all seemed to be done by eye using an adze and steaming. There was no glue involved, just the the iron hoops which were hammered down the curved surface of the barrel, and of course weren't straight either.

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    If I get the time I might try drawing a barrel of Coke
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    Default Re: January 2015 Video Tutorial -- Tracing Is Not Cheating!

    Okay, found time. Only thing that wasn't my drawing was a vector of the Coke logo which I got from Brands of the World. (Did apply fills & mould though):
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    Last edited by Egg Bramhill; 09 February 2015 at 02:21 AM.
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    Default Re: January 2015 Video Tutorial -- Tracing Is Not Cheating!

    Cheers Gary for your kind comment in #91, much appreciated.

    @Rik and Egg- thanks for posting your images, it gives me more work to try and I love that cask Egg, must attempt that

    Stygg

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    Default Re: January 2015 Video Tutorial -- Tracing Is Not Cheating!

    Hope the binding is top quality, Egg.
    We don't want anything leaking out!

    Excellent drawing.

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    Default Re: January 2015 Video Tutorial -- Tracing Is Not Cheating!

    Great work Egg!
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    Default Re: January 2015 Video Tutorial -- Tracing Is Not Cheating!

    Hi Egg—

    The fact that they don't use glue is a testament to craftsmanship. We have the Amish in Pennsylvania, and when they build things such as houses and chairs, their craftsmanship is so demanding that they don't use nails or screws—they lock panels and stuff into place with wooden pegs. Remarkable stuff.

    If I might kibbutz after complimenting you on a fantastic rendering of a keg (what's the difference between a keg and a barrel?); your work is detailed and just leaps out at you like a 3D image.

    I'd like to see you challenge yourself and 1.) add perspective to the keg; make the viewer look down at it so they can see two sides of the keg. 2.) The other thing (I thought) I was showing this month is how a tracing fits into a scene. A composition, as opposed to rendering an object, tells a story. The keg might be in the hold of a dimly lit ship for all we know. so you shade it a little differently, and add a floor and a background. Believe me, please.

    I did a fast, uneducated, simple render of a keg on a floor here:

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    The shadow supports it within the scene, I obviously didn't put the labor into the keg that you did, and I "cheated" and used a 3D program, because it's faster at composition building than drawing the whole thing.

    Is there anything you see in a large sense that might make sense adding to your illustration?

    Attached are all the files for the background and a sketch of the keg in perspective. I did this for you, and only you, in the hopes you'd consider taking something grand and making it royal.

    My Best,

    Gary
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    Default Re: January 2015 Video Tutorial -- Tracing Is Not Cheating!

    Hi Gary, strangely enough I was originally going to do a top down drawing but I found one that had more detail for the staves etc. Excuse me for not using your supplied files but here's one I thought matches your inspirations. The floor & wall images are bitmaps, the rest contain vectors shapes, some bitmap filled, others various flat & transparent fills.
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    Last edited by Egg Bramhill; 10 February 2015 at 02:54 AM.
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    Default Re: January 2015 Video Tutorial -- Tracing Is Not Cheating!

    what's the difference between a keg and a barrel?
    Quite an interesting question G.

    A cask seems to be the generic name for liquid volume containers, one of which is a barrel.

    A keg however seems to have many different volumes and again is more a generic name than a measured amount.

    Since keg sizes are not standardized, the keg cannot be used as a standard unit of measure for liquid volumes.
    My favourite liquid containers name is a "carboy" used for carrying corrosives/acids
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    Default Re: January 2015 Video Tutorial -- Tracing Is Not Cheating!

    Quote Originally Posted by Egg Bramhill View Post
    Hi Gary...Excuse me for not using your supplied files but here's one I thought matches your inspirations.
    Hi Egg—Absolutely thrilled with your work and no need to excuse yourself. My rendered model took all of 15 minutes to pull, and all I wanted to do is push you to the next level...perspective, accurate lighting, complete scene, and if this isn't featured in The Outsider, there's something wrong with them!

    Aces!

    Buy you a keg.

    Or barrel.

    Or flagon, forget it! :)

    My Best,

    Gary

 

 

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