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    Default Re: November 2014 Video Tutorial -- The Importance of Backgrounds!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gare View Post
    lighting is a little muxed up and this is mostly because the scene is so ambitious!

    Paintings on adjacent walls will not/cannot have identical drop shadows, because we'll assume from the person's shadow that there is one primary light source, and yet the adjacent walls are 90 degrees in opposition. They're getting similar, but not identical lighting.



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    This shows what I was thinking very well.

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    Paintings are usually hung at eye level
    True. Sorry I hadn't noticed the eye level part in my initial comment, although I have seen paintings in museums hung very high.
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    Default Re: November 2014 Video Tutorial -- The Importance of Backgrounds!

    Quote Originally Posted by wizard509 View Post
    ...I have seen paintings in museums hung very high.
    Oh, when they hang a painting high, it has committed a capital offense in a state where the gas chamber and the firing squad have not been adopted.

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    Default Re: November 2014 Video Tutorial -- The Importance of Backgrounds!

    This is me trying to add steroids to this thread.

    I've drawn a second image against pure white, but have a grid in perspective on the Guides layer for assistance.


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    As you'll see, the camera angle is closer to the ground than the mug and donut picture, and it can probably live with one wall, or three walls, or none. You decide, you're the designer, you give the foreground a nice background. There's a lot of colors from which to sample, and the floor can be wood, tile, you name it.

    Wot say?

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    Default Re: November 2014 Video Tutorial -- The Importance of Backgrounds!

    Thanks for the new background file Gary and also I've altered my Art room image trying to implement the points you posted. It's still not perfect but I think improved it a little. The upper pictures are a bit high but with your tomfoolery lawyers I should only get 25 years

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    Default Re: November 2014 Video Tutorial -- The Importance of Backgrounds!

    That's nice, Stygg!

    Well, I tried a new background for the flower vase this time...
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    Default Re: November 2014 Video Tutorial -- The Importance of Backgrounds!

    Wow!

    I absolutely love it, Maya!

    The colors, the feeling of depth and space (no pun intended). Is this the beginning prelude to the motion picture "Still Life Wars"? With Darth Vase, Lemon Sykwalker, and Princess Lime-a?

    Never mind me: the work is great, I'm just in a head where everything looks like planar polygons.

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    Default Re: November 2014 Video Tutorial -- The Importance of Backgrounds!

    @stygg—


    I have been fooling with this all day and finally discovered why there's something "off" with your gallery composition.

    It's the perspective. You determined the perspective by the ground plane. The walls must follow the floor, like this:

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    If you were to draw a ceiling to this room, you'd immediately see the problem. From a level eye view, perspective takes hypothetical horizontal lines at eye view and then grades them, mirror fashion both upward and downward. Here's my guy scene with the same perspective lines. See how differently the frames are angled?

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    I'm not sure how to put it exactly, but a view of a room even with a little forced perspective (this room is definitely a little on the wide-angle camera lens side), needs a baseline, the middle ground in this case, from which perspective lines approach the viewer and separate both downward and upwards.

    I've attached a Xara file with a progression of this perspective thing in it.

    We've both learned something from this ambitious adventure, stygg!

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    Default Re: November 2014 Video Tutorial -- The Importance of Backgrounds!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gare View Post
    Wow!

    I absolutely love it, Maya!

    The colors, the feeling of depth and space (no pun intended). Is this the beginning prelude to the motion picture "Still Life Wars"? With Darth Vase, Lemon Sykwalker, and Princess Lime-a?

    Never mind me: the work is great, I'm just in a head where everything looks like planar polygons.

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    I'm glad the new episode worked out thanks Gare!

    Stygg's room perspective idea has been great to explore -- rather tricky too! Stygg, you've helped us all!
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    Default Re: November 2014 Video Tutorial -- The Importance of Backgrounds!

    Quote Originally Posted by Crow Haven View Post
    Well, I tried a new background for the flower vase this time...
    Interesting composition Maya, I associated not to the Star Wars but to a great past game named Neverball

    Also like Stygg's tries, inspite of the fact as Gare mentions that the pictures on the wall can not have parallel lines to each other, slightly they should tend meeting in vanishing points. But that imperfection somehow makes the viewer to think, so maybe could simply stay like that as it is

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    Default Re: November 2014 Video Tutorial -- The Importance of Backgrounds!

    Thanks Gary once more for your help and guidance, and to all you gals and guys for your valuable feedback, I'm glad it prevoked interest to everyone and Maya, that is one great image.

    Stygg

 

 

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