This is exactly what I need! Thank you so much Mike! I did look up some youtube videos on this, but the ones I saw didn't go beyond typing the numerals and rotating them into position. I also checked the help file, but all I found there that looked related was "minus back" in the effect menu. I don't often need to do anything this involved, but I will check into getting a book with a disc for the rare occasion that I might need it.