Frances, for what it's worth my response #11 was more or less a direct response to Gare's #10. I have the utmost respect for you as an artist, designer, and teacher. Your posts have been a valuable resource to me and many here. Of course Rik is another story. All kidding aside I also have great respect for Rik too, but don't tell him because I wouldn't want him to get a fat head. Same enormous respect goes for Gare.
Nuff said. Have a good day.