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    Default Re: Adobe commits suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    and remember the customers who subscribe are the ones adobe will listen to....

    Really? Lets see what Adobe is going to do when their profits go doing from just listening to cloud subscribers only. That would be bad business and business suicide. If they are smart, they would listen to everyone. In my business all customers count and are important. That's what keeps me in business.
    That being said, at this point, a lot of people are so fed up that they don't care what Adobe does. I personally know a lot of people and clients already in the process of making the move or are in the process of switching to non-Adobe software. This is a smart move. You never want to have one software company determine the success of your business or career. You always want to work with multiple tools.

    A lot of people will be moving away from Adobe software and never looking back. Here is a good list that I found posted online:

    For photo editing, manipulation, and composition:
    Corel PaintShop Pro X5
    Pixelmater
    Corel Painter
    Xara Designer Pro X
    Xara Photo & Graphic Designer MX
    Topaz standalone plug-ins
    OnOne standalone plug-ins
    CorelDRAW Graphics Suite
    PhotoLine
    Snapheal
    camerabag


    For illustration:
    Manga Studio 5 (better and faster than photoshop for coloring and illustration)
    Corel Painter
    Sketchbook Pro
    ArtRage


    VECTOR APPS:
    Xara Designer Pro X (awesome!)
    Serif DrawPlus X6 (awesome!)
    Xara Xtreme
    CorelDraw
    Vector Magic
    Artboard
    IDraw
    ZeusDraw
    Inkscape
    Intaglio
    EazyDraw
    Sketch


    For video:
    FinalCut Pro
    Motion
    Lightworks
    iMovie
    Avid Media Composer
    VideoStudio Pro X6
    Nuke
    Wondershare Video Editor


    For Audio:
    Pro Tools
    Sound Forge Pro
    Audacity
    ACID Pro


    For print work:
    Swift Publisher
    CorelDRAW Graphics Suite
    QuarkXpress
    Scribus
    MultiAd Creator Pro
    Xara Designer Pro X


    For Web:
    Expression Web
    Espresso
    Coda
    Astana Studio
    Wordpress
    Tumult Hype ( instead of Adobe Edge Animate )
    Notepad plus

    For accessing and converting files:
    XnView. (free) will read and write Photoshop .PSD files, also opens Adobe Illustrator .AI files.
    ADOView. ($10) will read and display any InDesign or InCopy file, also reads Illustrator files.


    For PDF:
    PDF Studio Pro
    Corel PDF Fusion
    NitroPDFf
    PDFsam Enhanced

    Instead of Lightroom:
    Aperture
    Corel AfterShot Pro
    DarkTable (free)

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    Default Re: Adobe commits suicide

    A useful list of Adobe alternatives, with one I'd avoid in the vector tools section: Serif DrawPlus X6 - your description of it as "awesome" is a bit wide of the mark, as this program is full of bugs, and the last version (X5) was so bad, Serif gave up on patching the problems and issued X6 with a lot of the problems still present. Still, it is cheap and you get what you pay for.
    Bob.
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    Default Re: Adobe commits suicide

    Microsoft have stopped all development of Expression Web - but at least that means you can get the last version free....
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    Nothing lasts forever...

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    Default Re: Adobe commits suicide

    Adobe isn't going to stop development any time soon. And Microsoft did not have a subscription only plan for Expression Web users. If they did the users would still be paying even though development stopped.

    Edit: now that I have reread the previous comments I see that was a response to Serif DrawPlus being cheap and getting what you pay for.
    Last edited by Know1; 26 May 2013 at 07:18 PM.

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    Default Re: Adobe commits suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by cgntoonartist View Post
    You never want to have one software company determine the success of your business or career. You always want to work with multiple tools.
    Very true.

    Nice list. Where did you get it? Here is another list I see being compiled:
    http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthre...63#post7585563

    Quote Originally Posted by jon404 View Post
    This is a HUGE opportunity for alternatives like Xara Designer Pro. Huge.
    If anyone at Xara reads this, please encourage your management to go right after Adobe -- RIGHT NOW -
    I agree. Do something like Corel is doing at the moment with their "Welcome, CS users!" There is no way I will get rid of XDP, but I just bought an upgrade version for 'CorelDRAW Graphics Suite X6' from Amazon.co.uk.

    www.corel.com/cs/
    http://mc.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=register

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    Default Re: Adobe commits suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by Know1 View Post
    Very true.

    Nice list. Where did you get it? Here is another list I see being compiled:
    http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthre...63#post7585563



    I agree. Do something like Corel is doing at the moment with their "Welcome, CS users!" There is no way I will get rid of XDP, but I just bought an upgrade version for 'CorelDRAW Graphics Suite X6' from Amazon.co.uk.

    www.corel.com/cs/
    http://mc.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=register
    Do you know if this upgrade version will work against a 2003 copy of CorelDraw 12? (that's what I've got installed at the moment)...

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    Default Re: Adobe commits suicide

    Thanks to everyone for posting more apps and links here! Spread the word on social media. A lot of people need help with this.

    Here is a more complete list:


    For photo editing, manipulation, and composition (instead of Photoshop):
    Corel PaintShop Pro X5
    Pixelmater
    Corel Painter
    Xara Designer Pro
    Xara Photo & Graphic Designer
    Topaz standalone plug-ins
    OnOne standalone plug-ins
    CorelDRAW Graphics Suite
    PhotoPlus X6
    PhotoLine
    Snapheal
    camerabag
    InstantMask Pro
    Gimp
    Oloneo PhotoEngine


    For illustration (instead of Photoshop):
    Manga Studio 5 ( Faster & better than Photoshop for illustration and coloring! )
    Corel Painter
    Sketchbook Pro
    ArtRage
    Corel PaintShop Pro X5
    MyPaint
    Howler
    Gimp
    Open Canvas (free)


    Instead of Lightroom:
    Aperture
    Corel AfterShot Pro
    Capture One Pro
    DarkTable (free)


    VECTOR APPS (instead of Adobe Illustrator):
    Xara Designer Pro (awesome!)
    Xara Xtreme
    CorelDraw
    Serif DrawPlus X6
    Vector Magic
    Artboard
    IDraw
    ZeusDraw
    Inkscape
    Intaglio
    EazyDraw
    Sketch
    Pixelmater (has vector tools as Vectormater)


    For video:
    FinalCut Pro
    DaVinci Resolve
    Motion
    Lightworks
    MAGIX Video Pro X5
    iMovie
    Avid Media Composer
    VideoStudio Pro X6
    Nuke
    Wondershare Video Editor
    Silhouette FX
    Hitfilm


    For Audio:
    Pro Tools
    Sound Forge Pro
    Audacity
    ACID Pro
    MAGIX Audio Cleaning Lab 2013


    For print work ( instead of Adobe InDesign ):
    Swift Publisher
    CorelDRAW Graphics Suite
    QuarkXpress
    Scribus
    PagePlus X6
    MultiAd Creator Pro
    Xara Designer Pro X


    For Web:
    Expression Web
    Espresso
    Coda
    Astana Studio
    Xara Web Designer 9
    WebPlus X6
    Wordpress
    Tumult Hype ( instead of Adobe Edge Animate )
    Notepad plus


    For accessing and converting files:
    XnView. (free) will read and write Photoshop .PSD files, also opens Adobe Illustrator .AI files.
    ADOView. ($10) will read and display any InDesign or InCopy file, also reads Illustrator files.


    For PDF:
    PDF Studio Pro
    Corel PDF Fusion
    NitroPDFf
    PDFsam Enhanced

    Instead of Flash:
    AnimeStudio
    ToonBoom Studio
    Unity

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    Default Re: Adobe commits suicide

    Jonazen, no that unfortunately won't work. This is for people who have a license for one of the qualifying Adobe CS products. If you click on the 'Adobe product owned' dropdown menu you'll see what CS products qualify.
    http://mc.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=register

    You don't seem to be able to upgrade your version at all.
    You need Graphics Suite X4 or X5, or CorelDRAW® Premium Suite X5 to be able to upgrade to CorelDRAW Graphics Suite X6.

 

 

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