Windows 8 .. ..worse than Vista!

[cmpan1]

just install the open source 'classic shell' (3 minutes )

set it boot to the desktop

and stop whining........

there... you have Windows 7 back

[handrawn]

except you don't - you just have a look alike desktop...

[masque]

just install the open source 'classic shell' (3 minutes )

set it boot to the desktop

and stop whining........

there... you have Windows 7 back

Try recording something from your PC TV tuner using Media Center with Win8 and see how similar a Win7 look-alike add on makes it.

[Big Frank]

just install the open source 'classic shell' (3 minutes )

set it boot to the desktop

and stop whining........

there... you have Windows 7 back

even if that were true (which it isnt) why should i switch to a new os and then download a freebie addon to help me to use it efficiently, gods sake

ps i never had a problem with win xp, thought it was a vast improvement over win98 after sp1

[joejac]

Hello,
Me I have a suggestion,
I would recommend to switch to Linux, these are the distributions I like most:

PCLinuxOS: http://www.pclinuxos.com/

Mageia: http://www.mageia.org/en/

Following is a set of interesting articles regarding Windows Migration to Linux.
In my opinion this is an easy path in order to migrate from Windows to Linux:

1. Windows Migration: Welcome To Linux. Welcome To PCLinuxOS!
http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201212/page03.html

2. Windows Migration: Download, Verify, and Create A LiveCD or USB
http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201212/page04.html

3. Windows Migration: Live Session & Installation
http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201301/page01.html

4. Windows Migration: Keeping Your System Up To Date & Installing Software
http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201301/page02.html

5. Windows Migration: My Journey to PCLinuxOS
Contains very useful information on listing the Windows programs that can be needed and their counterpart in the Linux World.
http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201302/page01.html

6. Windows Migration: What Software Do I Need?
A General List of Linux programs (in blue font) that can replace Windows programs (in red font):
http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201302/page02.html

7. Windows Migration: Configure Your Computer with PCC, the PCLinuxOS Control Center
http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201303/page01.html

8. Windows Migration: Fine Tune Your PCLinuxOS Installation
http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201303/page02.html

9. Windows Migration: Desktop Environments & Window Managers
http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201304/page03.html

10. Windows Migration: One Installation, Two (Or More) Desktop Environments
http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201304/page04.html

Hope this can help for those tired of Windows.

Best regards
joejac

[pauland]

Well the debate about Windows 8 took an interesting turn in our household.

My wife's laptop was getting a bit long in the tooth so I spotted a reasonable buy on ebay and bought it. She would be moving from a 1.6Ghz Core Duo, Windows 7 machine to an i3 Windows 8 ultrabook (slim laptop without DVD) that was rather sleek.

Well, the Asus ultrabook keyboard wasn't as good as the Dell and my wife hated Windows 8. To make things worse, only Java 32 bit was installable on this 64bit machine and she plays yahoo games and they kept dying.

I just sold the machine again on ebay, to be replaced by another Dell running Windows 7.

I could have installed Windows 7 on the ultrabook, but it wouldn't have improved the keyboard.

I could get used to WIndows 8, but I completely understand why people hate it. It's certainly a shock to the system. I found the transition to MacOSX more straightforward.

[StevenWWinters]

...only Java 32 bit was installable on this 64bit machine...

Really? Why is that? 32 bit only browser?

The Win8 issues could probably be resolved, but the keyboard, not so much...

FYI, a couple of Win8 update rumors.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/16/42...desktop-option

http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/22/42...1-start-button

[pauland]

Java 32bit is the only option - apparently it has to run in a certain mode on Win 8. I suspect that whatever the issues were, may have caused the java-based yahoo games problems, though I couldn't find any.

The ASUS ultrabook had an i3 and by default was shutting down the networking to save power by default!

If the keyboard had been a bit better and the games didn't just die, we'd have kept it, I think. My wife was really annoyed at the right panel sliding over and the date popping up too.

There was no one thing that made us ditch it. I did consider loading Windows 7 on it, but the keyboard wouldn't have improved. My wife didn't get on so well with the trackpad either ( though that may have just been to do with it being multi-touch). Early-on she got in a muddle with pinch and zoom, so I disabled it.

It did make me realise how good Dell is for upgradability. Upgrading the disk drive would have been a major pain.

The machine did have an "instant-on" capability and that really was very good.

Pity, it was a great looking machine and I'm sure for other people would have been a good purchase.

[jon404]

There's hope... DOS!

[pauland]

I hated DOS when it was current. A poor shadow of the unix systems I worked with.