Site uploaded after many days

**angelize** · 27 August 2012, 11:49 PM

this issue has been beaten to death so let's please move on with any other design related comments or questions OK?

**KeithH** · 28 August 2012, 05:22 AM

Hi Skech,

I really like your site. I like everything about.

I did find one grammatical typo (I think) that you may want to look at correcting. It is on the Services page, on the right column, under the Private Client Work section. The sentence in question is :

Royal Security encourage our clients to take a proactive approach to their security, so reducing the likelihood of unwanted incidents and sparing them physical, emotional and financial distress if they do occur.

I believe "Royal Security encourage our clients to take...." should be "Royal Security encourages....."

Anyways, look it over. Great site; I wish I could make one that looks that nice.

Sincerely,
KeithH

**haakoo** · 28 August 2012, 07:37 AM

To be consistent in your design,I'd make the buttons on the contact form also green.
Other than that it's a good design

Hans

**Big Frank** · 28 August 2012, 07:47 AM

I would tell the client I believe his company name could be illegal AFTER i've been paid for the work and that my suggestion would be to check it out with his solicitor

that way you've covered yourself and eased your conscience

@angelize this may apply in canada as well since you're a commonwealth country but since you're not a professional web designer it may not apply to you personally, it does certainly however apply to all designers designing for clients in england and wales

for the record, a web designer, in matters of web design and domain nomenclature, is not deemed to be the average man in the street, he is deemed to have a level of expertise in such matters above and beyond that expected of "the reasonable man"

therefore i would hesitate before brushing off the suggestion that a web designer is innocent of any tort perpetrated by his client's website or domain name

ianol but i have been in the hot seat often enough not to be rash in these matters

**Cloud** · 28 August 2012, 11:18 AM

Firstly to all the people who have commented on the design of the site thank you very much, and Hans thank you for the tip, I will get that sorted. This is my last post here so I would like to finish with a simple fact that some people are having a hard time understanding - A web designer is not an expert on law. If i am aware of a certain law I will point it out, it is not my job to trawl legal books looking to make sure that my client is not breaking any laws. The laws which apply to me work are primarily ones of copyright, all the images graphics we use are our own copyright or we have license to use them, the customer signs a contract to say that any image/ graphic they supply is their copyright or they have permission to use it - other than this we make sure that the client does not have illegal material (porn etc) or if the domain name is something like 'www.appleiscrap.com'.

It seems astonishing that I am having to post this but there we, this is what seems to be happening on a regular basis these days. http://board.xara-users.info/viewtop...60a0171a82f33d

**handrawn** · 28 August 2012, 12:28 PM

ah yes - when someone points out something you should know, but don't want to, then of course it is automatically hostile - no way on earth that you could be wrong is there?

there is a lot of self-serving over sensitivity around, and flouncing out like a prima-donna isn't going to convince me otherwise

but I for one wish you well and no malice - you are free to do what you think is best, as are we all...

no one ever said you had to be an expert in law, but you do have a duty to your client - and once something is pointed out to you, you should act on it

peace

**Cloud** · 28 August 2012, 12:47 PM

flouncing out like a prima-donna isn't going to convince me otherwise

I wasn't aware that I was going anywhere. When I said it was my last post here I meant this thread, yet here I am again. It seems sad that anyone would think I would leave a forum just because someone posted something. Let's be adults shall we. How about having a new section of the forum to discuss business, where a newcomer can get advice on such matters, a lot of forums have them.

**handrawn** · 28 August 2012, 12:59 PM

peace, as I said

**Big Frank** · 28 August 2012, 02:28 PM

i personally was giving you advice that you, by your responses, appeared to be ignorant of
you are now no longer ignorant of that advice so we can leave it there
the only person who's being hostile is you and i don't know why
knowing what i know in my field has never caused a problem between me and a client
surely that's why they take us on, because we know much more about our field than they do?
i always say "it's up to you, and i'm only passing the information on because it may be something you weren't aware of"
after that it's entirely up to the client what he chooses to do about it
job done as far as you're concerned, you've fulfilled your obligation
because whether you like it or not, you WILL be seen as the expert in this field that this client would have referred to
anyway, i already said it was a nice design, i have nothing adverse to contribute to the discussion
keep on making nice designs, you're clearly good at it

**Barbara B** · 29 August 2012, 06:11 AM

Skech, congratulations on a very nice web design. Thank you for sharing it with us.

The emotions have gotten a bit hot here and Angleize, this forums moderator, has asked you politely to dial it back and move the topic back on topic for this forum, and I expect you all will do so.

It is important to remember that we are an international community whose laws about content and what duties are required of us in our professional capacities varies widely. And as designers, we may be in one country, the customer in another and the server in a third which makes issues discussed here even more difficult and open to misunderstanding or contention.

As to Skech's suggestion about starting a business advice forum for conversations like this one-- it seems like a good idea on the surface but in practice it has not worked out so well here in the past or on other boards I've seen --they become spam magnets and get bogged down in a lot of "IANAL. ..." threads - so I am not convinced that it would ultimately be positive addition to the discussion here on TalkGraphics about graphics and graphics software.