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[gidgit]

Well, that all depends on the version of PI you are working with... version 7 and up have had pretty tight code, and usualy the code people refer to that PI generates that could be deemed less than ideal,are the extra row or col along the edge of the table, which are generated when there is staggering cell structures... and this because all is within one table, and given this fact I think it makes for the best solution out there for non redit generated code...

just cut that row or col out when you pop it into a web editor, but first be sure to go in and define your cell properties, because otherwise this is where the blow outs occur when previewing/viewing...

the only other thing is the context sensitivity of the browser's used, as PI generates everything capitalized... so any unix users out there might be outta luck... then again, this is a graphics app eh http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

as for the capitalized code mixing with the noncapitalized generated by most web editors, I dunno... sometimes I have gone in and fixed this manualy, while other times I have simply left things as were, and everything opened fine in IE, Netscape/Opera etc...

also, back in the older versions there was need to go in and tweak the code for some things, such as border="0" for those graphic links... but the newer versions look after this...

infact, I found that both DreamWeaver, as well Front Page were actually the culprits which generated some less than ideal code http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

to which, well, the way I see things, if the page loads correctly cross platform, and browser, and said pages load within a very reasonable time frame concidering the content, then all is well, and you are but only a very minor concern for over burdening the web http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

I mean in a perfect world there would be no waste, yet durn it, I still end up taking the garbage out once a week http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[MaryLouW]

The major problem in creating a web page in PI is that when you have a background, it doesn't generate it on the fly like a standard html page, it puts the entire background into the image and cuts it up into pieces when it generates the html. This makes it so much slower when loading the pages. you can see it load up piece at a time. You also cannot center a page using PI unless you manually edit the html and if you can't do that, you're sort of out of luck.

I've been playing around with sample pages to see how fast/slow they load. Feel free to see for yourself - none of the links work since these are "dummy" pages.

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I find they all load slowly and I'm on DSL. I can't imagine what it would be like on dial-up.

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[Grafixman]

What PI version are you using? PI8 has a css option for generating webpages. You could fiddle around with that. As for the background being sliced up, you could try making it first then saving it as jpg or gif, compressed as small as acceptable. When making the page, turn off the visibility of the background. Insert the webpage background you just saved via PI's html properties. PI wouldn't slice it then, except in places with object layers, where you have the option to save the slices as jpg or gif. Compressing the slices as tightly as possible, as jpg or gif, whichever gives the smaller file, would speed up the loading time. Using the css option also makes tweaking the code a little easier. Worth a try http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/smile.gif.

[MaryLouW]

Those are all great suggestions for those who are experienced in creating web pages but so many people are just learning do to a lot of this stuff. There are also those web sites with multiple background layers to consider.

Web pages are fun to make in PI but would definitely not use it to create a professional site. It's much too difficult to edit once done.

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[sallybode]

What Graphixman was telling you is so true but you have to know how to implement it. Here is a link to the best site I've found on Cascading Style Sheets (CSS). His tutorials are very clear and in plain English.CSS