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    Fellow painters,

    If you've ever worked with real watercolor, you know that Painter's default brushes lack in feel and result. Well, I've been toying around with Painter's Watercolor Brushes and I think I've got real, real close to the real thing.

    Attachments don't seem to be attaching, so take a look at the result here:
    http://www.inmidia.com.br/carpen/sictransit.jpg

    E-mail if you want this one. Sorry, PC only.

    Best strokes,

    Paulo

    [This message was edited by paulo on June 08, 2001 at 13:11.]
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    Fellow painters,

    If you've ever worked with real watercolor, you know that Painter's default brushes lack in feel and result. Well, I've been toying around with Painter's Watercolor Brushes and I think I've got real, real close to the real thing.

    Attachments don't seem to be attaching, so take a look at the result here:
    http://www.inmidia.com.br/carpen/sictransit.jpg

    E-mail if you want this one. Sorry, PC only.

    Best strokes,

    Paulo

    [This message was edited by paulo on June 08, 2001 at 13:11.]
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    paulo

    the forum is updating slow as of late. i inadvertantly posted twice the other day thinking that my first attempt didn't load.

    stecyk66

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    paolo,

    Very nice! I'll write to you privately to ask for your brush recipe.

    Thanks for offering it. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    Jinny Brown
    http://www.pixelalley.com
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    Jinny has sent me a Brush Recipe Template and I'm using it to share the Real Watercolor Brush with you.

    Please be sure to send me anything you do with it!

    My website shall be up soon with most of my work and some new brushes.

    I'll let you know!

    Thank you again, Jinny!


    Paulo

    REAL WATERCOLOR BRUSH RECIPE
    _______________

    GENERAL
    Dab Type: Circular
    Stroke Type: Single
    Method: Wet
    Subcategory: Grainy Wet Abrasive
    Opacity: 29%
    Grain: 90%

    SIZE
    Size: 10.3
    Min Size: 23%
    Size step: 5%

    SPACING
    Spacing: 36%
    Min Spacing: 1.0
    Damping: 50%
    Continuous Time Deposition: box unchecked
    Cubic Interpolation: 2 points

    ANGLE
    Squeeze: 100%
    Angle: 25%
    Ang Rng: 0
    Ang Step: 0

    BRISTLE (greyed out/not applicable)

    IMPASTO
    Draw to: Color

    EXPRESSION
    Size: Pressure
    Jitter: None
    Opacity: Pressure
    Grain: Pressure
    Color: None
    Angle: None
    Resat: Pressure
    Bleed: Pressure (invert box checked)
    All others greyed out/not applicable
    Direction: o

    WELL
    Resat: 100%
    Bleed: 100%
    Dryout: 122,1
    Brusj Loading: box unchecked

    AIRBRUSH (greyed out/not applicable)

    RAKE (greyed out/not applicable)

    RANDOM
    Jitter: 0.00
    All others greyed out/not applicable

    WATER
    Diffusion: 0
    Wet Fringe: 34%

    CLONING
    Clone Color: box unchecked
    All others greyed out/not applicable)

    MOUSE
    not applicable
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    Paulo,

    You're very welcome. I'm glad that you used it. Here's part of a message I'm sending to you privately, just to let you know what I've done with the brush so far.

    I've got it saved as a variant and have been playing with it. It certainly is different from the default Water Color brush variants, and I'm finding it does some surprising things. For instance, when I first put down the brush and begin to paint, it paints with full color. Without lifting the brush, if I keep painting, the opacity decreases and it blends colors. Sometimes it won't do this lowered opacity and blending thing, though, and I haven't figured out why. All I've done is change paper textures and move the Grain slider. Oddly enough, paper texture seems increased when I move the Grain slider to the right (normally it works in the reverse, moving to the left increases Paper texture). The only thing in the settings that I can think might be the cause is that Bleed is set to Pressure/Invert, but I can't see how that has anything to do with Paper texture. Does it? Hmmm.. there is so much to learn about brushes... always!

    If I get something done that's presentable, I'll post the image.

    Thanks again! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    Jinny Brown
    http://www.pixelalley.com
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    Visit PixelAlley and The PainterFactory
    Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
    Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. Chinese Proverb
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    Hi Paulo,
    I have followed your recipe for this brush and am having a bit of a problem with a typo, I think.

    The Well: dryout value you have is 122,1. Should it be 122.1 or 1221 or 1,221?

    WELL
    Resat: 100%
    Bleed: 100%
    Dryout: 122,1
    Brusj Loading: box unchecked

    Thanks
    Greg
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    Hi Greg,

    I noticed that too and decided it was supposed to be 122.1 since Painter seems to want to jump in increments and that's one of them.

    Now that you bring up the question, though, I'm going to try the other number and see what happens. If you don't hear from me, it may be that my house blew up. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

    Happy Saturday!

    Jinny Brown
    http://www.pixelalley.com
    ________________________
    Jinny Brown
    Visit PixelAlley and The PainterFactory
    Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
    Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. Chinese Proverb
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  9. #9

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    Ok,

    My fault. The correct value is 122.1

    I live in Brazil, and we few countries of Portuguese language use commas instead of dots to separate decimals. I sometimes forget that when writing in English.

    Keep painting, and please send me (or post) what you're doing with the new brush! I'm curious!

    P
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    I've received a message of someone saying that the Real Watercolor brush seem to be losing color too fast. She asks me if the recipe is right.

    Well, the quick brush drying up is meant to emulate a real watercolour brush. In real watercolour painting, when the brush dries up you may keep using it to mix colors or to fade hard edges. That's why this brush is supposed to be "real." Try keeping the pen pressed after the paint dries out. You may get some interesting results!

    If you're working with larger file sizes you may try to increase the DRYOUT setting in the WELL tab, to, let's say, 300 or 500.

    Keep painting

    [This message was edited by paulo on June 09, 2001 at 19:21.]
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