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**Abikadabra** · 17 February 2012, 01:06 AM

Graham Someone.... I will find out his surname for you next week. He is English but lives in Victoria in Australia. He designs mainly for clothing designers and artists and musicians. He was invited to speak to our class (we are all newbies) whilst he was visiting Perth on business. He was very passionate about his profession, but also very critical. For example, he kept talking about how the pomposity of design and designers ego continually gets in the way of the end result, and that web designers need to listen more to their clients requests, but more importantly, he insisted that older designers (and he is one of them, possibly late 60s) needed to keep abreast of future technology and design predictive websites that cater for this. All the young ones in the class were savvy to what he was talking about and the lecture was very dynamic and interactive. I listened and took notes, but didn't feel I could contribute very much as I don't know very much!

**Big Frank** · 17 February 2012, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by Abikadabra

He designs mainly for clothing designers and artists and musicians

well that answers my question anyway

**Abikadabra** · 20 February 2012, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Big Frank

well that answers my question anyway

Haha! He spoke of the pomposity of design and designers ego, but I must have missed the bit about web designers snobbery .....

**Big Frank** · 20 February 2012, 03:14 PM

95%, maybe more, who knows, of web designers do NOT design for the "clothing designers and artists and musicians" market, they design for a far more mundane market, requiring a totally different set of guidelines. I don't mind that you call me a snob, I admit it whole-heartedly, proudly and with my hand firmly grasping my wallet, but I would mind if you put me in the same bag as the pompous gasbag that lectured to you.

**iamtheblues** · 20 February 2012, 04:03 PM

Frank, you are a breath of fresh air, not afraid to call a spade a shovel.
Bob.

**Big Frank** · 20 February 2012, 04:43 PM

You are too, Bob, as you well know. It's simply that you are less precipitous than I am. I have an exceptionally large mouth made-to-measure for the foot that invariably finds a home there.