Hi again Gary and thanks for the tip. I'll definitely get it into the new site. Thanks also for not looking too closely at the site - first site, cranky software and cranky abilities! I agree with you absolutely - "Less is more" - that old maxim from the Bauhaus.

Can you say whether Designer Pro can edit pdf text etc?... will vectors snap to pdf geometry? I tried a search for this but no luck.

Stop over anytime for coffee! :-)

Stones