I once got a 'Bad RIFF data' message also. I think it is just a corrupted file. Awhile back I completely reinstalled Os 9 on my Mac and erased the hard drive. All my Painter files were transfered to my iMac then moved back to the G4 after the reinstall. In the process nearly all the .rif files were corrupted in some way. Some would not open while others had defects in the image. I now save my images in both .rif and .psd

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