A Speaker or 2

**Rik** · 25 April 2011, 11:24 PM

Any comments or criticism welcome.

**David O'Neil** · 26 April 2011, 02:07 AM

Nice speakers, but the one on the left needs more shading on the table/surface added for realism. A touch under the left-bottom corner, and a little on the right side, as the lighting is coming from the top-left. Overall, great job!

**Soquili** · 26 April 2011, 05:03 AM

Rik where are the tweeters and mid-range?

**masque** · 26 April 2011, 06:45 AM

Rik
I like the left one on the black best but as David says a little more 'toughening up' to make it a bit more solid. Also Bill does have a point, it needs a tweeter at least.
Derek

**Rik** · 26 April 2011, 09:10 AM

As I said in my OP, any comments or criticism welcome.
So, thanks for that.

You don't have to convince me about Tweeters and Sub-Woofers and all that!

But, I was looking at a speaker system my son has.
The sub-woofer is what caught my attention. It has the speaker and a rectangular hole for, who knows what?!
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...31&FORM=IDFRIR

The link above is just to show you the sub-woofer type
So, I suppose the title of my thread is wrong. Sincere apologies for that, everyone.

What I was mainly trying to achieve was a for the lighting to be a bit better on the round part that allows the speaker to move back and forth.
I am not too happy with the round hole I have drawn, at the moment.

But, I am most interested in the 'shading' and 'toughening-up' comments.
Do you mean that the bottom left and right reflection part should be brighter?

Something else that I don't understand is that I thought I had the lighting from the bottom left and not top left?!

**masque** · 26 April 2011, 10:34 AM

I think that the general assumption when looking at any object is that it is lit from above. It can be lit from beneath obviously, if sitting on a glass table for instance. But it can look instantly wrong at first glance.
I should have realised it was a sub woofer so no tweeter so that's not an issue.
The toughening up comment from me was mainly a need to make it look a little weightier. The lighting and texture is fine but the skill is to make the object look as though it has mass and sits on a surface, occupying space. Perhaps on reflection the right-hand side pic achieves this better.
Just being picky about a drawing that's perfectly fine really.
Derek

**Rik** · 26 April 2011, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by masque

Just being picky...
Derek

I would have to be the best artist in the world before I could say to you that you were being picky.

When I get to your standard, I'll let you know!

To be honest Derek, how else am I going to learn and get the finer points right?

But, when I get a chance, I will change the lighting to the top left and try and sit the speaker on something different.

But, please let me know everything you don't like.

**Soquili** · 26 April 2011, 01:29 PM

Rik I never would have guessed this to be a sub-woofer. It appears to be more akin to the speakers being sold for use with a laptop or even an mp3 player.

Include something to give an indication of the relative size of the unit. A bit more detail of what it is sitting upon or a hint of something it is near.

Is the housing made of plastic or painted/lacquered wood or some type of anodised/brushed metal?

**Rik** · 26 April 2011, 01:48 PM

Some very good points and questions Bill.

In all the fantastic art you see, there's always more in the drawing that gives the viewer relative size information.

Firstly, I was going for a metallic sort of look. Then ran in to the same gradient fill problem when using the same colour and going from a light shade to slightly darker and so on.
This gradient fill has been discussed in one or two of my other threads and I have been told to do that part in PhotoShop. At the moment, I am reluctant to do that.

So, I just stuck with trying to do the fill and to get a metallic type of look.

Can't say that I am happy with the background at all so I wall try and work on that as well.

Please let me have all your thoughts and feel free to make any alterations to my drawing that you think will help.

I know it's only a jpg, so, do you think it would help if I posted the .xar file?
Would people want to have a go at showing what could be done?

Sub-Woofer?
Would changing the round hole to a rectangular one show more that it's a sub-woofer?

**Soquili** · 26 April 2011, 02:14 PM

Rik do you have a photo of the sub-woofer?

For me it is best to have a reference photo so I can see the details then decide what to include in a drawing and what to leave to the viewer's imagination. It also makes it easier to get the lighting correct for the overall image. Working on parts individually without a reference can lead to inaccurate lighting effects.

You have an advantage by having the physical sub-woofer as reference so the textures can be studied closely.