Polish "ć"

**Sponsi** · 10 December 2009, 08:26 PM

BTW. "Dear Xara"...

Remember about Polish "ć" and generally issues with international fonts...

**covoxer** · 13 December 2009, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by Sponsi

BTW. "Dear Xara"...

Remember about Polish "ć" and generally issues with international fonts...

What's the problem with Polish "ć" ? Seems to work fine here. See the screenshot.

**steve.ledger** · 13 December 2009, 10:30 AM

Sponsi I have moved your question regarding Polish characters to a new 'Dear Xara..' thread.
Please do not change topics in older threads - also please remember that the Dear Xara.. forum is not intended for lenghty discussions or debates.

**Sponsi** · 13 December 2009, 09:21 PM

sledger sorry and thanks

covoxer... well.. I have had problems with this character for a long time. Alt+c reates copyright sign for me.. I mentioned that somewhere else and someone backed me, so I'm probably not the only one..

Do you know any solutions for this?

**covoxer** · 14 December 2009, 05:31 AM

With default Windows Polish keyboard layout you have the "ś" and "ć" letters on the same key. It's the English "]" key. Simple press enters "ś", and with Shift you get "ć".

Alt+c

You probably mean Ctrl+Alt+c?

**Sponsi** · 14 December 2009, 05:34 PM

Probably 99 per cent of Polish computer users use normal US keyboards together with "Polish programmer's" keyboard setting in Windows (so do I).. so I don't have any ś or ć on my keyboard.. the usual combination is Alt + c for ć and Alt + s for ś (the right Alt).. and yes, I know that it should be Ctrl + Alt + c to create copyright.. but it IS Alt + c.. without Ctrl.. and this really sucks..

Come on, I'm not that dumb : ) it is a bug, no kidding.

**covoxer** · 14 December 2009, 08:38 PM

So you are using "AltGr+c" with Polish (programmers) keyboard. Alt+c doesn't work this way.
Technically speaking it is not a bug. AltGr is equivalent to Ctrl+Alt so the documented Ctrl+Alt+c hotkey is activated. Still this is an issue for everyone who relies on this combination.
Thank you for explaining about layouts used in Poland.

**Sponsi** · 14 December 2009, 08:45 PM

What is AltGr? I meant clean Alt all the time...
We normally use Alt + c (the right Alt) in every possible software and it either produces ć or nothing.. but very rarely something totally different...

Alt + c = ć
Alt + s = ś
Alt + a = ą
Alt + e = ę
Alt + l = ł
Alt + o = ó

Right now I used right Alt + something to produce these characters...

I thought you were Polish or half Polish or something ; )

**covoxer** · 14 December 2009, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Sponsi

What is AltGr?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr

Ok, so this is not a problem if you have XtremePro. Open main menu "Utilities / Customize key short-cuts...". In the dialog switch "Command Categories:" to "Text Tool" and in the "Commands:" list select "Insert a copyright symbol". Now you can reassign different short-cut or simply clear it.

**Sponsi** · 15 December 2009, 03:03 PM

Wow, so the right Alt is actually AltGr.. never heard of that before and I do have some serious experience with computers..

I have Xtreme, but not Pro... : (

So it's up to Xara if they correct it...