Hi Phil,
Perhaps you could show him a couple of the ones here....some ideas with the idea of consulting with him rather than criticizing the logo. Sharing ideas sometimes works with people.
If he doesn't seem to want to share ideas and consult on what is good, if it was me, I would drop it....but if an open mind prevails then you have something to work with.
Just my 2cents worth,
Ed......:-)
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