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    Default Re: What do you see when you close your eyes?

    Credit goes to Boris on sciforums for this nice concise reply...

    *Note from me... Please, if you notice any new changes in vision, halos, floaters, etc... let your doctor know. Many serious conditions can cause these visual changes.

    Those "colors" and "patterns" are nothing but retinal noise. The human retina is actually a pretty noisy light detector, but usually when there is abundant input there is enough signal present to overwhelm the noise to a point that the noise is not noticeable. When you get into a very dark room or close your eyes, you lose the signal and the noise takes over. There are ways to amplify the noise by mechanically stimulating the retina -- e.g. apply some mild pressure to your eyeballs.

    The "negative" images you see when you look at an object for a long time, or at a bright light for a short time, and close your eyes -- are also artifacts of noise. The human retina is just an array of photoreceptors. By holding an image over the retina for a long time, or exposing the retina to a very bright image, you "tire out" the receptors that were receiving the brighter parts of the image. When you close your eyes, all receptors produce noise -- but those that are tired produce less noise. So, you end up seeing a "negative" image.

    For example, the human retina has three distinct color receptors -- that detect red, green and blue light. Try this experiment: get a green sheet of paper, and paste a red circle on it. Hold the assemblage in front of your eyes so that it covers your entire field of view, and try to hold your gaze fixed on the circle. After a few seconds, close your eyes and cover them over by your hands, so as to enhance the 'darkness'. You will see an aquamarine circle superimposed on a magenta background -- a negative image of what you were looking at. That's because among the receptors that received light from the circle, the red-color ones are tired and produce less noise, while the green and blue are not tired and their noise overwhelms the red noise. So, where there used to be a circle you see a mixture of green and blue -- aquamarine. Similarly, among those receptors that were looking at the green background, the green are tired while the red and blue are producing most of the noise -- so you see a mixture of red and blue, or magenta.

    Another cool experiment to try, is to hold a plain green, red or blue sheet in front of your eyes so as to cover your entire field of view, for a minute or so. Then take it away, and you will experience a 'color-filtered' world. That's because this will tire out one type of color receptors in your eye, and they will not produce as much output as they would if they weren't tired -- the perceived effect being as if there was less of that hue of light in the world. For example, if you were holding a green sheet in front of your eyes, when you take it away everything will take on a magenta hue.

    Sometimes you get black/white silhouettes from looking at bright pictures. White light is a mixture of red, green and blue (among other wavelengths) -- so it stimulates all of your color receptors equally. When a cluster of all three types of receptors becomes more "tired" than the surrounding receptors, what you see is a dark spot on a lighter background.

    Of course, these effects dissipate gradually, as your retina restores its balance. So don't worry about permanently screwing up your eyesight, have fun!

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    Default Re: What do you see when you close your eyes?

    Very consice and interesting infromation. I meant to start the thread to see if people could recreate what they see in an image but I didn't even do it. I tried but I couldn't get it to look like what I see. That 'seeing' isn't really seeing at all.
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    Default Re: What do you see when you close your eyes?

    With Laura's acoustic neuroma and detached retina, she saw various things that were difficult to describe. Her description was that of colors flowing in her vision. Black floaters were from blood. You can lose your vision completely.

    Rich

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    Default Re: What do you see when you close your eyes?

    I hope that Laura is under a doctor's care. Would be terrible to lose her sight.
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    Default Re: What do you see when you close your eyes?

    Laura's interpretation.

    A retina tear may repair itself. In the other case, you have about 24 hours to get it fixed. This happened in each eye about a year apart.

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    Default Re: What do you see when you close your eyes?

    Such a beautiful image/view created by her injury. I send prayers to Laura.
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    Default Re: What do you see when you close your eyes?

    I didn't need to close my eyes. I remember seeing multiple keyboards floating in space. It was difficult to know which one to use. When I turned my head, it took a while before I would see the changed view. It was a very strange feeling.


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    What i "see" when i close my eyes depends on my "head space"...
    As when ones eyes are closed (especially in a dark room) there is very little (if any) visual input to the eyes and I guess once ones visual receptors settle down one does not really SEE anything...

    And any perceptions of a visual or even quasi-visual nature, one may experience hence forth could then be considered to be born of mind (or what ever other yet unfathomable higher faculties we humans posses.

    But i have to confess that i'm not one of those lucky (and rare from what i have read) individuals that is able to see in the "mind's eye" imagery virtually as vivid as nearly as detailed as if one does with the eyes open...

    (and I have read that this most highly prized faculty is said to be directly related to (if not exactly) clairvoyance itself...i.e. that famed an much misunderstood faculty where people can to a very high degree, avail themselves of their visual cortex to "see" (experience very real image of) what they may be thinking about, remembering or experiencing mentally.
    Where by the average person may only experience crude or very crude imagery (by comparison...).

    I digress...

    I don't normally see / experience a very similar "visual" with my eyes shut thinking about something that happened ETC. than i did being there and actually seeing it.

    Although i have to confess when occasionally in weird mental states especially round about the hynagogic state, to seeing much more vividly than a normal remembrance (although never to be mistaken for full eyes open vivality) some quite strange stuff.

    Floaters yeah...got heaps of em....
    i got 95% of mine on one night when i was about 10 or 12 years old...
    my parents were driving at night on the way to our holidays and the next morning the streaks and spots of dozens of sets of oncoming headlights were permanently etched into my retinas.... i have many of them to this day...and before then i had only a few that i never noticed...
    now i have a veritable "star field"... although the brain does tend to get fairly good at ignoring them...i still get fooled occasionally and think for a second something is moving or there is an insect flying ETC then only to realise...not....

    anyway....I think what i see (or have seen) with my eyes shut is a very long story LOL....

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    Default Re: What do you see when you close your eyes?

    I have seen things and I do not known why I have seen bright blue to white light that has woke me up in the middle of the night in a completely dark room.

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    Default Re: What do you see when you close your eyes?

    Must not be completely dark if there is a bright blue to white light. Just kidding. Maybe its an alien abduction in progress. All joking aside, that sounds weird.
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